A Political Thread pt. 2

[McTallshort]

Trump says there is 'real starvation' in Gaza and US will set up food centres

More malnutrition deaths are reported as the UN's aid chief says aid delivered over the weekend is still only a "drop in the ocean".

www.bbc.co.uk

Even Trumps saying it now

 

[ncurd]

Trump says there is 'real starvation' in Gaza and US will set up food centres

More malnutrition deaths are reported as the UN's aid chief says aid delivered over the weekend is still only a "drop in the ocean".

www.bbc.co.uk

Even Trumps saying it now

Probably got shown a picture this morning will forget it in an hour or so.

 

[Welsh Exile]

Probably got shown a picture this morning will forget it in an hour or so.

Trump cares about as much for the plight of Palestinians as he does about Anti semitism on American university campus’s.

He generally acts like a populist so will go where the ratings are going and what will make him look good/bad. That’s the primary motivation imo.

 

[Ragey Erasmus]

Fish oil?

 

[General Melchett]

Funny watching an American President host a UK PM on UK soil. Perhaps Turnberry has become his European Mar a Lago.

I'd ordinarily get excited that he's reduced Putin's 50 day deadline to 10-12 days but we all know that things can change in the blink of an eye with TACO.

 

[Vieux Talonneur]

Reform UK's George Finch, 19, becomes Warwickshire council leader

The teenager was voted in as leader following a tie with Liberal Democrat nominee Jerry Roodhouse.

www.bbc.co.uk

I mean it's an incredible achievement for the fella, but holy smoke it feels utterly crazy.

I thought all the Reform supporters felt that younger people shouldn't even be allowed to vote because they haven't got life experience.

Why does Blackadder and Pitt the Even Younger spring to mind?

He’s eligible, he’s got the job, so he has to take the responsibility, the pelters and pressures that come with it. At 19 he’s going to be spectacularly ill equipped to deal with them, but expect to get burnt if you choose to fly too close to the sun. It’s mad and may even turn out to be very unfair on him.

At least he plays rugby.

 

[Leonormous Boozer]

Funny watching an American President host a UK PM on UK soil. Perhaps Turnberry has become his European Mar a Lago.

I'd ordinarily get excited that he's reduced Putin's 50 day deadline to 10-12 days but we all know that things can change in the blink of an eye with TACO.

Really hope it doesn't get the Open even though it sounds like it will if they can sort infrastructure out. One of the best courses in the world but it'd be politicised massively. When I played Doonbeg in the middle of Biden's term it was decked out in MAGA gear which was immediately off putting, the course itself there is very overrated too, have played better for half the price.

 

[AlRums]

Take the fuckers out or sanction Qatar for harbouring them. Something seems fishy there.

Who's going to sanction Qatar?

Trump, $400 million 747 will stop that plus his new resorts

 

[AlRums]

For first time, two leading Israeli human rights groups accuse Israel of genocide in Gaza

https://edition.cnn.com/2025/07/28/middleeast/israeli-human-rights-group-accuses-israel-genocide-gaza-intl

 

[AlRums]

Trump says there is 'real starvation' in Gaza and US will set up food centres

More malnutrition deaths are reported as the UN's aid chief says aid delivered over the weekend is still only a "drop in the ocean".

www.bbc.co.uk

Even Trumps saying it now

Trump complains he didn’t get a thank you for sending aid to Gaza

Donald Trump claimed the US sent $60 million to Gaza weeks ago but did not specify to whom the funds were sent

www.independent.co.uk

Trouble is that aid is going to GHF and American company founded a few months ago who have been found to be totally incompetent and are hiring those contractors accused of shooting refugees. Best he keeps quiet on that one.

 

[Which Tyler]

It's just a common theme.
He needed his name on the Covid bail-out cheques
He needed personal thanks for Biden's aid packages to Ukraine

US government does something popular (an increasingly rare event) than he wants his name plastered all over it

 

[Which Tyler]

 

[Welsh Exile]

I love how we’re threatening Isreal with recognising a Palestinian state unless they agree to a ceasefire. Why not just recognise it and then exert pressure, I mean, everyone wants to get closer to a 2 state solution. Just strikes me as really weird but then a Palestinian state is like kryptonite for Netenyahu and co so maybe Starmer thinks this will be a good way to get a ceasefire.

 

[ncurd]

I love how we're threatening Isreal with recognising a Palestinian state unless they agree to a ceasefire. Why not just recognise it and then exert pressure, I mean, everyone wants to get closer to a 2 state solution. Just strikes me as really weird but then a Palestinian state is like kryptonite for Netenyahu and co so maybe Starmer thinks this will be a good way to get a ceasefire.

Isn't it the switching of thought in terms of sanctions? Instead of being an internal Israeli matter it becomes an invasion of a neighbouring nation.

I dont know it ins and outs but Im sure it opens up some legal opportunities.

 

[Welsh Exile]

Isn't it the switching of thought in terms of sanctions? Instead of being an internal Israeli matter it becomes an invasion of a neighbouring nation.

I dont know it ins and outs but Im sure it opens up some legal opportunities.

Yeah not sure. Just read the first few bullet points on bbc. Will do some more reading on it later. Seems like some hollow posturing but hope I'm wrong.

 

[pagliaccio_euforico]

He’s telling Israel they have to accept a two state solution or we are going to treat this as an act of war.

A sovereign Palestine state is the outcome either way.

 

[General Melchett]

I suspect Macron, Starmer and other European leaders have reached the end of their tether with Netanyahu. They've tried for months to get a ceasefire and sort the humanitarian crisis but to no avail. This is probably the next option which also keeps the two state solution on the table and can be used as leverage. For me eliminating Hamas is a legitimate goal but removing the two state solution is not. The two don't come as a package. They were also right to condemn Hamas and again call for the hostages to be released.

 

[AlRums]

Who recognises Palestine as a state?

Palestine will soon have the support of four of the UN Security Council’s five permanent members - assuming France and the UK recognise its statehood

The state of Palestine is currently recognised by 147 of the UN's 193 member states.

At the UN, it has the status of a "permanent observer state", allowing participation but no voting rights.

With France also promising recognition in the coming weeks and assuming the UK does go ahead with recognition, Palestine will soon enjoy the support of four of the UN Security Council's five permanent members (the other two being China and Russia).

This will leave the United States, Israel's strongest ally by far, in a minority of one.

Washington has recognised the Palestinian Authority, currently headed by Mahmoud Abbas, since the mid-1990s but has stopped short of recognising an actual state.

Several US presidents have expressed their support for the eventual creation of a Palestinian state. But Donald Trump is not one of them. Under his two administrations, US policy has leaned heavily in favour of Israel.

Without the backing of Israel's closest and most powerful ally, it is impossible to see a peace process leading to an eventual two-state solution.

Israel Gaza latest: Trump says Canada's move to recognise Palestinian state threatens trade deal

The US special envoy to the Middle East is in Israel today, after Canada joined the UK and France in planning to recognise Palestine.

www.bbc.co.uk

 

[Saintjay]

So if Israel meets the requests of the UK. Do we then not recognise the Palestinian State. Or if Hamas don't meet the requests either.

The way it's worded seems more of a threat than a goal. Plus the legal question of can Palestine actually be a state by international law.

If Hamas won't give up power or realise the hostages then what are the options?

 

[LeinsterMan (NotTigsMan)]

Why would there be question marks over it’s statehood?