Antisocial, societal issues thread

[Ragey Erasmus]

Gregg Wallace faces backlash over autism defence

The TV presenter was criticised after he appeared to link claims of misconduct to his autism diagnosis.

www.bbc.co.uk

The guy is despicable!

I've never liked people using every mental condition under the sun to excuse immoral behaviour. Whilst people may miss certain social cues, it's not like everyone with mental conditions is a sociopath with no understanding of right and wrong.

 

[odw26]

I've never liked people using every mental condition under the sun to excuse immoral behaviour. Whilst people may miss certain social cues, it's not like everyone with mental conditions is a sociopath with no understanding of right and wrong.

Mental health has been weaponised in modern society, in certain areas, as a means to excuse bad behaviour and avoid personal responsibility.

 

[General Melchett]

Mental health has been weaponised in modern society, in certain areas, as a means to excuse bad behaviour and avoid personal responsibility.

It also doesn't help when you have political leaders like TACO setting a horrendous example to hundreds of millions of people by not taking responsibility for his actions e.g. January 6th. People look at that and think it gives them license to do the same. Boris was also bad for that before the TDS police knock on my door.

 

[Bada-Bing!]

Using mental health conditions as a defence mechanism is just plain wrong. It's an explanation and not an excuse for behaviour as Wallace is doing in his case, which is unacceptable.

But it does highlight neurodiversity does exist in our society and needs to identified and supported. Otherwise peeps with it are too afraid to come out with it and suffer in silence.

 

[ncurd]

Working in engineering i works with loads of neurospicy people. Myself despite not being diagnosed definitely has some blend of ADHD and Autism in there.

Anyone with it will tell you its no excuse for bad behaviour even if they do ask you be awarre of buttons and triggers and kindly do not press them. People do love to press them though some people are colossal shits. More of an issue at school but does happen in workplace.

There's no ******* excuse here just another celebrity who got away with bad behaviour and now whos been found out using an excuse.

 

[Reiser99]

The timing of the diagnosis is the big issue for me. Like when other celebrities checked themselves into sex addiction classes etc...

It's all designed to try and create some sympathy and water down what they did.

 

[Ddanno]

The timing of the diagnosis is the big issue for me. Like when other celebrities checked themselves into sex addiction classes etc...

It's all designed to try and create some sympathy and water down what they did.

Yeah, it's either entirely bogus, or he's known about it far longer than he admits

See also: Russell Brand becoming a born again Christian complete with baptism in the Thames featuring Bear Grylls

 

[Which Tyler]

It's older than lockdown, though that accelerated it.
Personally, I think it's social media.
You get to broadcast your weirdest thoughts, and the algorithm explitly shows you people agreeing with you, and people you can feel righteous indignation against.
Which isn't social media per second, but is certainly how they all evolved.

Conspiracy theorists have always been with us, but they get an outsized voice.
Self-centredness and superiority complexes (and Dunning-Krugers) have always been with us, but the algorithms turn it all up to 11.

That leads to the likes of the tea party => MAGA, and the UKIP=>Reform, excusing and legitimising our worst impulses.
And the same on the left from "bleeding heart" => "politically correct" => "cancel culture"

Just come across this, with which confirms my bias from above

 

[Bada-Bing!]

Dog foul fines top £50k in Northern Ireland as DNA database explored

Councils receive thousands of dog fouling complaints as one local authority explores how DNA might help.

www.bbc.co.uk

 

[dirty harry]

Vigilante Tube passengers face arrest over 'assault' of naked man

British Transport Police (BTP) believe the naked man, who has since been detained under the mental health act, was assaulted on the District line in east London.

www.dailymail.co.uk

Assault of a mental ill person, or vindicated force to remove someone from the train?

 

[Welsh Exile]

Vigilante Tube passengers face arrest over 'assault' of naked man

British Transport Police (BTP) believe the naked man, who has since been detained under the mental health act, was assaulted on the District line in east London.

www.dailymail.co.uk

Assault of a mental ill person, or vindicated force to remove someone from the train?

Jesus.

Im going with assault of a mentally ill person but it's a tough one. If there were kids on the train I think you'd forgive people for not taking a second to be rational and just beat them up first and ask questions later.

 

[Reiser99]

Guess this belongs here. I know I'm cynical, but this did amuse me.

Iceland supermarket offering £1 reward for reporting shoplifters

The company estimates that shoplifting costs its business around £20m each year.

www.bbc.com

It costs us £20 million so we'll give you a quid so our profits will be boosted and we make more money.

 

[Ragey Erasmus]

Guess this belongs here. I know I'm cynical, but this did amuse me.

Iceland supermarket offering £1 reward for reporting shoplifters

The company estimates that shoplifting costs its business around £20m each year.

www.bbc.com

It costs us £20 million so we'll give you a quid so our profits will be boosted and we make more money.

It's one of those offers that is so derisory it would have been better to not offer it at all.

As I saw someone else say, if you are that desperate for £1, you are probably the one doing the shoplifting.

 

[General Melchett]

Guess this belongs here. I know I'm cynical, but this did amuse me.

Iceland supermarket offering £1 reward for reporting shoplifters

The company estimates that shoplifting costs its business around £20m each year.

www.bbc.com

It costs us £20 million so we'll give you a quid so our profits will be boosted and we make more money.

I saw their Chairman being interviewed on the BBC a few months ago. He said something along the lines of "People think our business is about selling frozen peas but what we really do is build hospitals and schools with all the tax that we pay".

 

[Ddanno]

If someone is nicking a box of pies and some mixed veg I didn't see a ******* thing.

 

[dirty harry]

Guess this belongs here. I know I'm cynical, but this did amuse me.

Iceland supermarket offering £1 reward for reporting shoplifters

The company estimates that shoplifting costs its business around £20m each year.

www.bbc.com

It costs us £20 million so we'll give you a quid so our profits will be boosted and we make more money.

What do I get if I report 2 female police runners as shop lifters as they head away from the shops?

Oh hang on, no chance they would route past the types of areas Icelands are located.

 

[Saintjay]

If the off down the road with a cheese burger pizza, I fully understand it. They are actually really nice.

 

[dirty harry]

If the off down the road with a cheese burger pizza, I fully understand it. They are actually really nice.

Ive never found anything in Iceland worthy of buying, I constantly pop in and try something every few months and it never works out, although I did find chicago town cheese filled crusts on sale previously and bought 10nof them hahaha

 

[Bada-Bing!]

If swearing public was a crime we'd have to send the entire armed forces to jail. And I'd be a full time inmate.

I'm still shocked when anyone in the UK cares about swearing...I was getting yelled at by my neighbour accross the street apparently I was using her drive to back my car onto my own, I hadn't infact, I hadn't done so since the first time she yelled at me for it. But the second I told her to **** off apparently I was in the complete wrong and taken things too far....

I think this goes back to context in which you swear. I take it after that you're not and no longer on good terms with your neighbour?

Nothing like good swearing I agree and no way should it be criminalised. But there are those who f and blind for the sake of it and bring down the whole tone of a social situation or don't know the context in which to do so. It can be really funny when done right.

Yesterday I was riding on a shared path and saw an elderly couple ahead so slowed down rung my bell to alert them I was there and wanted to pass as they were taking up the whole path, the old man turned his head and pointed "you should be on the road". I could have told him to F off but just pointed out "no it's a shared path look at the blue signs." One was right in front of him. He said nothing.

 

[ncurd]

I take it after that you're not and no longer on good terms with your neighbour?

This was close to a decade ago now, I've moved twice since. The entire thing was pathetic but typical neighbours BS. They lived opposite us in a small cul-de-sac which like a lot of UK areas has inadequate parking unless you have one car. One of issues we constantly had was people parking in front of our driveway for short periods of time.

Anyway one time their son blocks our drive and this coincided with needing to leave our house. My wife knocks on their door and ask it to be moved. They ask if it can wait 20 mins as they were eating dinner which of course my wife says no we need to leave now.

A while later we sometimes use their the very front of their drive to get the right angle to back onto our in one manevure. This causes some issue at night because headlight shine into their front door (this happens regardless of if you enter the drive or not). She bangs on our door saying we need driving lessons (my wife use to drive an ambulance and is blue light trained) and we calmly say thats fine we hear you and say whilst we dont use the drive we may use the pavement. Not trying to make a point it just makes the maneuvere easier.

At some point may have been before or after this they get thier drive repaved. And the Bricks are delivered all accross the cul de sac in the road. My wife (probably stupidly) rings the brick company to ask when they'll be moved after a day or two. Apparently they were annoyed but really its the brick delivery company fault.

Anyway last incident was the one I mentioned. Its night, the headlights shine in their house (as they always do). I dont touch her drive (I dont really remember being close). She opens her front door and starts yelling at me across the street about how I need driving lessons, that they didnt pay for the drive for me to damage it. So yeah I told her to "**** Off and that zip hadn't touched her ******* drive and hadn't since the first time she complained". Then I got the "how dare I swear at her". Which honestly considering she was shouting at me accross the street when I was minding my own business and just going in my house for the evening, I was hardly the aggressor there.

The sad thing was we actually until like a month or two later when she got made redundant actually worked for the same business. She just didnt know who I was (nothing to do with me the redudancy).

Anyway that was it didnt speak to one another for the year or two we remained there.