England 2021/22

[Greeno]

Just an in-season training camp so can't read too much into it,

Ewels, lol

Surprised (but pleasantly) to see Will Joseph there - he's a real talent,
Arundell too

Watson's only played 2 games this season, according to the Bath website - weird to include him
Joe C too, but meh
Probably just to see where they're at, fitness wise, but harsh on the Hassell-Collins/Radwan to miss out on a training opportunity

Bailey over Ford is mad, but either would still be behind Furbank for third choice 10 so doesn't really matter who's involved
Lynagh the wrong call on Quins backs, imo

No George and slade is also a surprise. Mako back in but no Billy. Should be the other way round for me. But it is only a training squad.

 

[BPM]

Are Tuilagi and Will Joseph the only outside centres there?

Dingwall can play 12 but is more of a defensive 13.

Hopefully McGuigan's call up is a precursor to making the Summer Tour. He's clearly the best uncapped hooker England can call upon and would be a better 3rd choice than Blamire or Dolly.

 

[BPM]

No George and slade is also a surprise. Mako back in but no Billy. Should be the other way round for me. But it is only a training squad.

Apparently Marler, Marchant and Slade were left out on agreement with Quins/Exeter. At least that's what I read.

 

[LeinsterMan (NotTigsMan)]

Watson makes sense imo.

He's only going to get two games, might as well do some tests on him in camp.

 

[LeinsterMan (NotTigsMan)]

Glad JVP is in he's imo next talented 9 after Quirke in terms of all round player.

 

[Geordie]

Glad JVP is in he's imo next talented 9 after Quirke in terms of all round player.

We need JVP as as Quirke is learning well off Manu about the physio table....

 

[Scotty]

Squad Announced

RFU

www.englandrugby.com

Forwards
Alfie Barbeary (Wasps, uncapped)
Jamie Blamire
Ollie Chessum
Tom Curry
Nic Dolly (Leicester Tigers, 1 cap)
Alex Dombrandt
Charlie Ewels
Ellis Genge
Joe Heyes
Maro Itoje
Joe Launchbury
Courtney Lawes
Lewis Ludlam
George McGuigan (Newcastle Falcons, uncapped)
Tom Pearson (London Irish, uncapped)
Bevan Rodd
Will Stuart
Sam Underhill
Mako Vunipola
Jack Willis

Backs
Henry Arundell (London Irish, uncapped)
Orlando Bailey (Bath Rugby, uncapped)
Joe Cokanasiga
Fraser Dingwall (Northampton Saints, uncapped)
Owen Farrell
Tommy Freeman (Northampton Saints, uncapped)
George Furbank
Will Joseph (London Irish, uncapped)
Louis Lynagh (Harlequins, uncapped)
Alex Mitchell (Northampton Saints, 1 cap)
Harry Randall
Marcus Smith
Freddie Steward
Manu Tuilagi
Jack van Poortvliet (Leicester Tigers, uncapped)
Anthony Watson

Really wish they'd put it by position on these sites not name, anyone got a like to a site that has them sorted into positions, you get a better feel for the depth of the squad IMO

 

[LeinsterMan (NotTigsMan)]

Just notice McGuigan

That's good

 

[TRF_Olyy]

Really wish they'd put it by position on these sites not name, anyone got a like to a site that has them sorted into positions, you get a better feel for the depth of the squad IMO

Pinched from Reddit:

Loosehead: - Ellis Genge - Mako Vunipola - Bevan Rodd

Hookers: - Jamie Blamire - George McGuigan (Newcastle Falcons, uncapped) - Nic Dolly (Leicester Tigers, 1 cap)

Tightheads: - Joe Heyes - Will Stuart

Locks: - Charlie Ewels - Maro Itoje - Joe Launchbury

Lock/Blindside: - Courtney Lawes - Ollie Chessum

Back Row: - Alfie Barbeary (Wasps, uncapped) - Tom Curry - Alex Dombrandt - Lewis Ludlam - Tom Pearson (London Irish, uncapped) - Sam Underhill - Jack Willis

Backs:

Scrum Halfs: - Jack van Poortvliet (Leicester Tigers, uncapped) - Alex Mitchell (Northampton Saints, 1 cap) - Harry Randall

Fly Halfs: - Orlando Bailey (Bath Rugby, uncapped) - Marcus Smith - Owen Farrell

Centres: - Will Joseph (London Irish, uncapped) - Fraser Dingwall - Manu Tuilagi

Back Three: - Louis Lynagh (Harlequins, uncapped) - Joe Cokanasiga - Tommy Freeman (Northampton Saints, uncapped) - George Furbank - Anthony Watson - Freddie Steward - Henry Arundell (London Irish, uncapped)

 

[Scotty]

Squad Announced

RFU

www.englandrugby.com

Forwards
Alfie Barbeary (Wasps, uncapped)
Jamie Blamire
Ollie Chessum
Tom Curry
Nic Dolly (Leicester Tigers, 1 cap)
Alex Dombrandt
Charlie Ewels
Ellis Genge
Joe Heyes
Maro Itoje
Joe Launchbury
Courtney Lawes
Lewis Ludlam
George McGuigan (Newcastle Falcons, uncapped)
Tom Pearson (London Irish, uncapped)
Bevan Rodd
Will Stuart
Sam Underhill
Mako Vunipola
Jack Willis

Backs
Henry Arundell (London Irish, uncapped)
Orlando Bailey (Bath Rugby, uncapped)
Joe Cokanasiga
Fraser Dingwall (Northampton Saints, uncapped)
Owen Farrell
Tommy Freeman (Northampton Saints, uncapped)
George Furbank
Will Joseph (London Irish, uncapped)
Louis Lynagh (Harlequins, uncapped)
Alex Mitchell (Northampton Saints, 1 cap)
Harry Randall
Marcus Smith
Freddie Steward
Manu Tuilagi
Jack van Poortvliet (Leicester Tigers, uncapped)
Anthony Watson

THP Genge Mako Rodd
HK Mcguigan Blamire Dolly
LHP Stuart Hayes
LK Itoje Launch Ewels
Fl Lawes Willis Curry Underhill Ludlam
No.8 Dombrandt Barbeary
SH Michell Randall JVP
FH Smith Bailey
IC Faz Dingwall
OC Manu Joeseph
WG Watson BigJoe freeman Lynagh
FB Steward Furbank Arendell

Sorry if ive missed any, the centres seem abit few and wing not amazing, it is just a training squad but i am pretty happy with the pack.

 

[Scotty]

Pinched from Reddit:

Loosehead: - Ellis Genge - Mako Vunipola - Bevan Rodd

Hookers: - Jamie Blamire - George McGuigan (Newcastle Falcons, uncapped) - Nic Dolly (Leicester Tigers, 1 cap)

Tightheads: - Joe Heyes - Will Stuart

Locks: - Charlie Ewels - Maro Itoje - Joe Launchbury

Lock/Blindside: - Courtney Lawes - Ollie Chessum

Back Row: - Alfie Barbeary (Wasps, uncapped) - Tom Curry - Alex Dombrandt - Lewis Ludlam - Tom Pearson (London Irish, uncapped) - Sam Underhill - Jack Willis

Backs:

Scrum Halfs: - Jack van Poortvliet (Leicester Tigers, uncapped) - Alex Mitchell (Northampton Saints, 1 cap) - Harry Randall

Fly Halfs: - Orlando Bailey (Bath Rugby, uncapped) - Marcus Smith - Owen Farrell

Centres: - Will Joseph (London Irish, uncapped) - Fraser Dingwall - Manu Tuilagi

Back Three: - Louis Lynagh (Harlequins, uncapped) - Joe Cokanasiga - Tommy Freeman (Northampton Saints, uncapped) - George Furbank - Anthony Watson - Freddie Steward - Henry Arundell (London Irish, uncapped)

Just had a go myself(seemingly in much less detail)

 

[TRF_Olyy]

Right now someone break it down by club so we can try and predict who will be available for the Barbarians game/who will be drafted in to cover missing players

 

[BPM]

THP Genge Mako Rodd
HK Mcguigan Blamire Dolly
LHP Stuart Hayes
LK Itoje Launch Ewels
Fl Lawes Willis Curry Underhill Ludlam
No.8 Dombrandt Barbeary
SH Michell Randall JVP
FH Smith Bailey
IC Faz Dingwall
OC Manu Joeseph
WG Watson BigJoe freeman Lynagh
FB Steward Furbank Arendell

Sorry if ive missed any, the centres seem abit few and wing not amazing, it is just a training squad but i am pretty happy with the pack.

Tighthead and loosehead the wrong way round.

If I don't say something, I know someone will be along to criticise Eddie for picking players out of position

 

[LeinsterMan (NotTigsMan)]

Missed Chessum Scotty that's a ban in my books.

Honestly fit Kelly for Dingwall and OHC/Radwan for Furbank and I would be happy with that squad for training

Tighthead is scary low on depth although Heyes has been really good this season, personally want to see Collier in for Stuart

 

[LeinsterMan (NotTigsMan)]

Also no Gloucester players which is promising.

 

[Scotty]

Missed Chessum Scotty that's a ban in my books.

Honestly fit Kelly for Dingwall and OHC/Radwan for Furbank and I would be happy with that squad for training

Tighthead is scary low on depth although Heyes has been really good this season, personally want to see Collier in for Stuart

Put Chessum in as a flanker, then deleted him to move him to lock...forgot to put him in.

I want to see Radwan in there as he has that pace ypu just cant coach, can you or anyone tell me why Freeman deserves to be there? Not an attack on him but what does he have as i just havnt seen it.

 

[will311293]

On it @TRF_Olyy

So ....
Bath: Will Stuart, Charlie Ewels, Sam Underhill, Orlando Bailey, Joe Cokanasiga, Anthony Watson
Bristol: Harry Randall
Exeter: None
Glaws: None
Quins: Alex Dombrandt, Marcus Smith, Louis Lynagh (Definately Not Available)
Tigers: Ellis Genge, Nic Dolly, Joe Heyes, Ollie Chessum, Jack Van Poortvliet, Freddie Steward (Definately Not Available)
Irish: Tom Pearson, Will Joseph, Henry Arundell
Falcons: Jamie Blamire, George McGuigan
Saints: Courtney Lawes, Lewis Ludlham, Alex Mitchell, Fraser Dingwall, Tommy Freeman, George Furbank (Likely Not Available)
Sale: Bevan Rodd, Tom Curry, Manu Tuilagi,
Sarries: Mako Vunipola, Maro Itoje, Owen Farrell (Definately Not Available)
Wasps: Alfie Barbeary, Joe Launchbury, Jack Willis
Wuss: None

 

[TRF_Olyy]

Who tf is gonna play tighthead vs Barbarians lol
Stuart starting and....then playing the whole thing because every other option is unavailable?

I guess Sinckler? But would EJ wanna risk his only two senior tightheads in a nothing game just before tour?

Ideally we'd have Heyes and Collier involved

 

[will311293]

Who tf is gonna play tighthead vs Barbarians lol
Stuart starting and....then playing the whole thing because every other option is unavailable?

I guess Sinckler? But would EJ wanna risk his only two senior tightheads in a nothing game just before tour?

Ideally we'd have Heyes and Collier involved

Biyi Alo? Scrummaging very well atm. Schonert at Sale? I'd also think Tom West/Will Goodrick Clarke must be floating about if players are out?

 

[TRF_Olyy]

Alo has looked good recently tbf, definitely a good shout

West looks, to me, to have regressed massively since his latest injury, but I don't watch Wasps all that much so will bow to greater knowledge

WGC a good shout too - didn't he train with the EPS recently?