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So get out.
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Sorry, but who gave you permission to address me personally?

The Crusaders would manshame any of the top teams in the NH and you know it. Countless amount of players who struggle to get spots on the bench for super rugby teams stroll into starting NH teams. Luke McLean and Craig Gower couldn't get contracts for a super rugby teams and they are starting for Italy for FFS..

I could create a huge list of nothing SH players who made the step down to NH rugby and became stand outs.

Remember, you're a Saffacens supporter.[/b]
We can also list all the supposedly SH superstars who were crap or barely average in the NH, or simply couldn't make it.

Matfield, crap
Jerry Collins, crap for Toulon
John Smit , average, did not have a poor season but was miles behind Ledesma
McAlister, average
..... to be continued

Now find me a SH superstar who actually met expectations, not many...

Kelleher maybe , had a great first season but struggled after.

More than often, some second string players who have more to prove do actually fare better

Brock James, Clermont
Sowerby, Toulouse
Van Niekerk, Toulon

Guess you should watch "The replacements" with Keanu Reeves.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Codorniou @ Mar 5 2010, 12:56 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div>
So get out.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE
Sorry, but who gave you permission to address me personally?

The Crusaders would manshame any of the top teams in the NH and you know it. Countless amount of players who struggle to get spots on the bench for super rugby teams stroll into starting NH teams. Luke McLean and Craig Gower couldn't get contracts for a super rugby teams and they are starting for Italy for FFS..

I could create a huge list of nothing SH players who made the step down to NH rugby and became stand outs.

Remember, you're a Saffacens supporter.[/b]
We can also list all the supposedly SH superstars who were crap or barely average in the NH, or simply couldn't make it.

Matfield, crap
Jerry Collins, crap for Toulon
John Smit , average, did not have a poor season but was miles behind Ledesma
McAlister, average
..... to be continued

Now find me a SH superstar who actually met expectations, not many...

Kelleher maybe , had a great first season but struggled after.

More than often, some second string players who have more to prove do actually fare better

Brock James, Clermont
Sowerby, Toulouse
Van Niekerk, Toulon

Guess you should watch "The replacements" with Keanu Reeves.
[/b][/quote]

Riki Flutey couldn't get a game for the Hurricanes, and is now an English test player, a Lions player, and one of the best 12s in the NH.

Matt Mustchin couldn't get a look in at the Crusaders, or even for Canterbury at lowly NPC level, yet moved to the Nh and became a test player for Scotland.

Cameron McIntyre played 17 matches for the Crusaders (most off the bench) in four seasons, before being given the sack for being ****. He's now a Rugby God in France.

Brock James was a reject from the Lowly western force, and now he's the best no.10 in the French T14 playing for Clermont.

The Leslie brothers, Martin and John, were solid but unspectacular S12 players. They headed North, and became test stars for Scotland.

Brendan Laney was another neville nobody who miraculously went from being a Super Rugby journeymen to a NH test star, almost overnight.

Johnny Leo'o couldn't get a start for the Crusaders, over years of trying. Yet he moves to France and he suddenly looks like a world beater for Racing Metro.

Lifeimi Mafi was an NPC journeyman with Manawatu and then Taranaki, who couldn't get a Hurricanes contract. He headed to Munster and has been one of their best players ever since.

Nathan Hines was a mungo in Australia, who switched to Manly RFC. Decade later he has over 60+ caps for Scotland.

Dan Parks, nobody in Australia , becomes a Scottish international.

Will MacDougall, not even a rep player in the NRL mungball, becomes a Scotland rugby international.

Jason "one good pass" Jones Hughes

Peter Gleeson, unwanted by NSW, becomes starting flanker for Ireland.

Brett Cockbain, dumped by Queensland and gets some caps for Wales.

Rocky Elsom beats Leicester to win the Heinekin Cup.

Want me to continue?
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Dale @ Mar 5 2010, 03:03 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div>
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Codorniou @ Mar 5 2010, 12:56 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
So get out.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE
Sorry, but who gave you permission to address me personally?

The Crusaders would manshame any of the top teams in the NH and you know it. Countless amount of players who struggle to get spots on the bench for super rugby teams stroll into starting NH teams. Luke McLean and Craig Gower couldn't get contracts for a super rugby teams and they are starting for Italy for FFS..

I could create a huge list of nothing SH players who made the step down to NH rugby and became stand outs.

Remember, you're a Saffacens supporter.[/b]
We can also list all the supposedly SH superstars who were crap or barely average in the NH, or simply couldn't make it.

Matfield, crap
Jerry Collins, crap for Toulon
John Smit , average, did not have a poor season but was miles behind Ledesma
McAlister, average
..... to be continued

Now find me a SH superstar who actually met expectations, not many...

Kelleher maybe , had a great first season but struggled after.

More than often, some second string players who have more to prove do actually fare better

Brock James, Clermont
Sowerby, Toulouse
Van Niekerk, Toulon

Guess you should watch "The replacements" with Keanu Reeves.
[/b][/quote]

Riki Flutey couldn't get a game for the Hurricanes, and is now an English test player, a Lions player, and one of the best 12s in the NH.

Matt Mustchin couldn't get a look in at the Crusaders, or even for Canterbury at lowly NPC level, yet moved to the Nh and became a test player for Scotland.

Cameron McIntyre played 17 matches for the Crusaders (most off the bench) in four seasons, before being given the sack for being ****. He's now a Rugby God in France.

Brock James was a reject from the Lowly western force, and now he's the best no.10 in the French T14 playing for Clermont.

The Leslie brothers, Martin and John, were solid but unspectacular S12 players. They headed North, and became test stars for Scotland.

Brendan Laney was another neville nobody who miraculously went from being a Super Rugby journeymen to a NH test star, almost overnight.

Johnny Leo'o couldn't get a start for the Crusaders, over years of trying. Yet he moves to France and he suddenly looks like a world beater for Racing Metro.

Lifeimi Mafi was an NPC journeyman with Manawatu and then Taranaki, who couldn't get a Hurricanes contract. He headed to Munster and has been one of their best players ever since.

Nathan Hines was a mungo in Australia, who switched to Manly RFC. Decade later he has over 60+ caps for Scotland.

Dan Parks, nobody in Australia , becomes a Scottish international.

Will MacDougall, not even a rep player in the NRL mungball, becomes a Scotland rugby international.

Jason "one good pass" Jones Hughes

Peter Gleeson, unwanted by NSW, becomes starting flanker for Ireland.

Brett Cockbain, dumped by Queensland and gets some caps for Wales.

Rocky Elsom beats Leicester to win the Heinekin Cup.

Want me to continue?
[/b][/quote]

So you reckon Rocky Elsom struggles to get a bench spot in the Super 14 do you? LOL

No disrespect to Scotland but they are currently ranked lower than Fiji on the IRB Rankings so bragging that 3/4's of your list can make the Scottish team is no big whoop.

Most of the players you've mentioned are considered crap up here as well apart from the a few obvious ones Flutey, James, Mafi, Hines. The rest are cack.

Fail.
 
Also, there's this thing called "improvement".
You see when people practise they often "improve" at the thing they're practising at.
Is it that hard to believe that alot of these guys "improved" when they were playing up here?
I know i'm a better player now then i was three years ago, is it really that implausible that, for example, Flutey improved when he moved to L.I?
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Dale @ Mar 5 2010, 02:03 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div>
Peter Gleeson, unwanted by NSW, becomes starting flanker for Ireland.[/b]
Any relation to Keith? :huh:

He's the Irish flanker who moved to Australia at 10 years old and ended up captaining the Aussie U-21 team before heading home. A very good player who deserved more than his 30 or so caps but he had David Wallace to contend with for the 7 shirt.

I'm not saying that Ireland haven't had their fair share of duds from south of the equator but he's not one of them.
 
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Cameron McIntyre played 17 matches for the Crusaders (most off the bench) in four seasons, before being given the sack for being ****. He's now a Rugby God in France.[/b]


If McIntyre is rugby god in France , then I am the pope.

He has has scored 6 tries ,108 points in his first three season, hardly impressing stats for a flyhalf and certainly not God's stats, he was actually complete crap.

He has improved in the current season, having scored more points than, 109, than in his first three seasons combined but the whole Castres team is playing better, so difficult to know where the improvement is coming from, the team or the player.

Your knowledge of the top 14 is obviously superficial, have you ever watched a single game ? I doubt.
 
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The Leslie brothers, Martin and John, were solid but unspectacular S12 players. They headed North, and became test stars for Scotland.

Brendan Laney was another neville nobody who miraculously went from being a Super Rugby journeymen to a NH test star, almost overnight.

Dan Parks, nobody in Australia , becomes a Scottish international.

Will MacDougall, not even a rep player in the NRL mungball, becomes a Scotland rugby international.[/b]

Scotland 9 - Australia 8

Look like the leftovers became better players.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Codorniou @ Mar 5 2010, 10:49 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div>
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Cameron McIntyre played 17 matches for the Crusaders (most off the bench) in four seasons, before being given the sack for being ****. He's now a Rugby God in France.[/b]


If McIntyre is rugby god in France , then I am the pope.

He has has scored 6 tries ,108 points in his first three season, hardly impressing stats for a flyhalf and certainly not God's stats, he was actually complete crap.

He has improved in the current season, having scored more points than, 109, than in his first three seasons combined but the whole Castres team is playing better, so difficult to know where the improvement is coming from, the team or the player.

Your knowledge of the top 14 is obviously superficial, have you ever watched a single game ? I doubt.
[/b][/quote]

Sorry, but I don't respond to nothing posters with less than 1000 posts.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Dale @ Mar 5 2010, 01:36 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div>
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Codorniou @ Mar 5 2010, 10:49 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE
Cameron McIntyre played 17 matches for the Crusaders (most off the bench) in four seasons, before being given the sack for being ****. He's now a Rugby God in France.[/b]


If McIntyre is rugby god in France , then I am the pope.

He has has scored 6 tries ,108 points in his first three season, hardly impressing stats for a flyhalf and certainly not God's stats, he was actually complete crap.

He has improved in the current season, having scored more points than, 109, than in his first three seasons combined but the whole Castres team is playing better, so difficult to know where the improvement is coming from, the team or the player.

Your knowledge of the top 14 is obviously superficial, have you ever watched a single game ? I doubt.
[/b][/quote]

Sorry, but I don't respond to nothing posters with less than 1000 posts.
[/b][/quote]

If McIntyre is rugby god in France , then I am the pope.

He has has scored 6 tries ,108 points in his first three season, hardly impressing stats for a flyhalf and certainly not God's stats, he was actually complete crap.

He has improved in the current season, having scored more points than, 109, than in his first three seasons combined but the whole Castres team is playing better, so difficult to know where the improvement is coming from, the team or the player.

Your knowledge of the top 14 is obviously superficial, have you ever watched a single game ? I doubt.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Dale @ Mar 5 2010, 01:36 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div>
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Codorniou @ Mar 5 2010, 10:49 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE
Cameron McIntyre played 17 matches for the Crusaders (most off the bench) in four seasons, before being given the sack for being ****. He's now a Rugby God in France.[/b]


If McIntyre is rugby god in France , then I am the pope.

He has has scored 6 tries ,108 points in his first three season, hardly impressing stats for a flyhalf and certainly not God's stats, he was actually complete crap.

He has improved in the current season, having scored more points than, 109, than in his first three seasons combined but the whole Castres team is playing better, so difficult to know where the improvement is coming from, the team or the player.

Your knowledge of the top 14 is obviously superficial, have you ever watched a single game ? I doubt.
[/b][/quote]

Sorry, but I don't respond to nothing posters with less than 1000 posts.
[/b][/quote]

If McIntyre is rugby god in France , then I am the pope.

He has has scored 6 tries ,108 points in his first three season, hardly impressing stats for a flyhalf and certainly not God's stats, he was actually complete crap.

He has improved in the current season, having scored more points than, 109, than in his first three seasons combined but the whole Castres team is playing better, so difficult to know where the improvement is coming from, the team or the player.

Your knowledge of the top 14 is obviously superficial, have you ever watched a single game ? I doubt.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Dale @ Mar 5 2010, 02:03 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div>
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Codorniou @ Mar 5 2010, 12:56 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
So get out.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE
Sorry, but who gave you permission to address me personally?

The Crusaders would manshame any of the top teams in the NH and you know it. Countless amount of players who struggle to get spots on the bench for super rugby teams stroll into starting NH teams. Luke McLean and Craig Gower couldn't get contracts for a super rugby teams and they are starting for Italy for FFS..

I could create a huge list of nothing SH players who made the step down to NH rugby and became stand outs.

Remember, you're a Saffacens supporter.[/b]
We can also list all the supposedly SH superstars who were crap or barely average in the NH, or simply couldn't make it.

Matfield, crap
Jerry Collins, crap for Toulon
John Smit , average, did not have a poor season but was miles behind Ledesma
McAlister, average
..... to be continued

Now find me a SH superstar who actually met expectations, not many...

Kelleher maybe , had a great first season but struggled after.

More than often, some second string players who have more to prove do actually fare better

Brock James, Clermont
Sowerby, Toulouse
Van Niekerk, Toulon

Guess you should watch "The replacements" with Keanu Reeves.
[/b][/quote]

Riki Flutey couldn't get a game for the Hurricanes, and is now an English test player, a Lions player, and one of the best 12s in the NH.

Matt Mustchin couldn't get a look in at the Crusaders, or even for Canterbury at lowly NPC level, yet moved to the Nh and became a test player for Scotland.

Cameron McIntyre played 17 matches for the Crusaders (most off the bench) in four seasons, before being given the sack for being ****. He's now a Rugby God in France.

Brock James was a reject from the Lowly western force, and now he's the best no.10 in the French T14 playing for Clermont.

The Leslie brothers, Martin and John, were solid but unspectacular S12 players. They headed North, and became test stars for Scotland.

Brendan Laney was another neville nobody who miraculously went from being a Super Rugby journeymen to a NH test star, almost overnight.

Johnny Leo'o couldn't get a start for the Crusaders, over years of trying. Yet he moves to France and he suddenly looks like a world beater for Racing Metro.

Lifeimi Mafi was an NPC journeyman with Manawatu and then Taranaki, who couldn't get a Hurricanes contract. He headed to Munster and has been one of their best players ever since.

Nathan Hines was a mungo in Australia, who switched to Manly RFC. Decade later he has over 60+ caps for Scotland.

Dan Parks, nobody in Australia , becomes a Scottish international.

Will MacDougall, not even a rep player in the NRL mungball, becomes a Scotland rugby international.

Jason "one good pass" Jones Hughes

Peter Gleeson, unwanted by NSW, becomes starting flanker for Ireland.

Brett Cockbain, dumped by Queensland and gets some caps for Wales.

Rocky Elsom beats Leicester to win the Heinekin Cup.

Want me to continue?
[/b][/quote]

Andy Goode.
 
There haven't been enough NH players moved to the SH to get a fair comparison really.
It will be interesting to see how Cipriani and Goode do, given they are in the similar position of being 3rd or worse choice in their home country, but may make it good in the alternate hemisphere.
Also, for those people insisting that Brock James, Flutey and co are examples of how weak NH rugby is, isn't it equally possible that the NH was just the change needed to turn them into world class players, and they would be just as good if they went home?
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (feicarsinn @ Mar 7 2010, 02:50 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div>
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Dale @ Mar 5 2010, 02:03 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Codorniou @ Mar 5 2010, 12:56 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
So get out.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE
Sorry, but who gave you permission to address me personally?

The Crusaders would manshame any of the top teams in the NH and you know it. Countless amount of players who struggle to get spots on the bench for super rugby teams stroll into starting NH teams. Luke McLean and Craig Gower couldn't get contracts for a super rugby teams and they are starting for Italy for FFS..

I could create a huge list of nothing SH players who made the step down to NH rugby and became stand outs.

Remember, you're a Saffacens supporter.[/b]
We can also list all the supposedly SH superstars who were crap or barely average in the NH, or simply couldn't make it.

Matfield, crap
Jerry Collins, crap for Toulon
John Smit , average, did not have a poor season but was miles behind Ledesma
McAlister, average
..... to be continued

Now find me a SH superstar who actually met expectations, not many...

Kelleher maybe , had a great first season but struggled after.

More than often, some second string players who have more to prove do actually fare better

Brock James, Clermont
Sowerby, Toulouse
Van Niekerk, Toulon

Guess you should watch "The replacements" with Keanu Reeves.
[/b][/quote]

Riki Flutey couldn't get a game for the Hurricanes, and is now an English test player, a Lions player, and one of the best 12s in the NH.

Matt Mustchin couldn't get a look in at the Crusaders, or even for Canterbury at lowly NPC level, yet moved to the Nh and became a test player for Scotland.

Cameron McIntyre played 17 matches for the Crusaders (most off the bench) in four seasons, before being given the sack for being ****. He's now a Rugby God in France.

Brock James was a reject from the Lowly western force, and now he's the best no.10 in the French T14 playing for Clermont.

The Leslie brothers, Martin and John, were solid but unspectacular S12 players. They headed North, and became test stars for Scotland.

Brendan Laney was another neville nobody who miraculously went from being a Super Rugby journeymen to a NH test star, almost overnight.

Johnny Leo'o couldn't get a start for the Crusaders, over years of trying. Yet he moves to France and he suddenly looks like a world beater for Racing Metro.

Lifeimi Mafi was an NPC journeyman with Manawatu and then Taranaki, who couldn't get a Hurricanes contract. He headed to Munster and has been one of their best players ever since.

Nathan Hines was a mungo in Australia, who switched to Manly RFC. Decade later he has over 60+ caps for Scotland.

Dan Parks, nobody in Australia , becomes a Scottish international.

Will MacDougall, not even a rep player in the NRL mungball, becomes a Scotland rugby international.

Jason "one good pass" Jones Hughes

Peter Gleeson, unwanted by NSW, becomes starting flanker for Ireland.

Brett Cockbain, dumped by Queensland and gets some caps for Wales.

Rocky Elsom beats Leicester to win the Heinekin Cup.

Want me to continue?
[/b][/quote]

Andy Goode.
[/b][/quote]

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Absolute rubbish for the winless Sharks.

Next.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Dale @ Mar 5 2010, 02:03 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div>
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Codorniou @ Mar 5 2010, 12:56 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
So get out.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE
Sorry, but who gave you permission to address me personally?

The Crusaders would manshame any of the top teams in the NH and you know it. Countless amount of players who struggle to get spots on the bench for super rugby teams stroll into starting NH teams. Luke McLean and Craig Gower couldn't get contracts for a super rugby teams and they are starting for Italy for FFS..

I could create a huge list of nothing SH players who made the step down to NH rugby and became stand outs.

Remember, you're a Saffacens supporter.[/b]
We can also list all the supposedly SH superstars who were crap or barely average in the NH, or simply couldn't make it.

Matfield, crap
Jerry Collins, crap for Toulon
John Smit , average, did not have a poor season but was miles behind Ledesma
McAlister, average
..... to be continued

Now find me a SH superstar who actually met expectations, not many...

Kelleher maybe , had a great first season but struggled after.

More than often, some second string players who have more to prove do actually fare better

Brock James, Clermont
Sowerby, Toulouse
Van Niekerk, Toulon

Guess you should watch "The replacements" with Keanu Reeves.
[/b][/quote]

Riki Flutey couldn't get a game for the Hurricanes, and is now an English test player, a Lions player, and one of the best 12s in the NH.

Matt Mustchin couldn't get a look in at the Crusaders, or even for Canterbury at lowly NPC level, yet moved to the Nh and became a test player for Scotland.

Cameron McIntyre played 17 matches for the Crusaders (most off the bench) in four seasons, before being given the sack for being ****. He's now a Rugby God in France.

Brock James was a reject from the Lowly western force, and now he's the best no.10 in the French T14 playing for Clermont.

The Leslie brothers, Martin and John, were solid but unspectacular S12 players. They headed North, and became test stars for Scotland.

Brendan Laney was another neville nobody who miraculously went from being a Super Rugby journeymen to a NH test star, almost overnight.

Johnny Leo'o couldn't get a start for the Crusaders, over years of trying. Yet he moves to France and he suddenly looks like a world beater for Racing Metro.

Lifeimi Mafi was an NPC journeyman with Manawatu and then Taranaki, who couldn't get a Hurricanes contract. He headed to Munster and has been one of their best players ever since.

Nathan Hines was a mungo in Australia, who switched to Manly RFC. Decade later he has over 60+ caps for Scotland.

Dan Parks, nobody in Australia , becomes a Scottish international.

Will MacDougall, not even a rep player in the NRL mungball, becomes a Scotland rugby international.

Jason "one good pass" Jones Hughes

Peter Gleeson, unwanted by NSW, becomes starting flanker for Ireland.

Brett Cockbain, dumped by Queensland and gets some caps for Wales.

Rocky Elsom beats Leicester to win the Heinekin Cup.

Want me to continue?
[/b][/quote]

by that logic then Sam Norton-Knight(mare), who was capped by the Wallabies at 10 despite being effin useless, should be the best fly-half in the entire NH!
Seriously though, these posts were faintly funny to start off with, but now it's just annoying tbh.
 
if they did actually have a HC XV/S14 XV Match is would be a resounding fail as the league version is. Although this is far out the pro bowl(american football) is an awsome match between the best of the AFC and NFC better than the super bowl in my vue. also i doubt the clubs would release the players without a cash insentive.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Dale @ Mar 5 2010, 03:03 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div>
Cameron McIntyre played 17 matches for the Crusaders (most off the bench) in four seasons, before being given the sack for being ****. He's now a Rugby God in France.
[/b]

lol_que.jpg
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Dale @ Mar 5 2010, 01:36 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div>
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Codorniou @ Mar 5 2010, 10:49 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE
Cameron McIntyre played 17 matches for the Crusaders (most off the bench) in four seasons, before being given the sack for being ****. He's now a Rugby God in France.[/b]


If McIntyre is rugby god in France , then I am the pope.

He has has scored 6 tries ,108 points in his first three season, hardly impressing stats for a flyhalf and certainly not God's stats, he was actually complete crap.

He has improved in the current season, having scored more points than, 109, than in his first three seasons combined but the whole Castres team is playing better, so difficult to know where the improvement is coming from, the team or the player.

Your knowledge of the top 14 is obviously superficial, have you ever watched a single game ? I doubt.
[/b][/quote]

Sorry, but I don't respond to nothing posters with less than 1000 posts.
[/b][/quote]
hahahahaha dale i find it hilarious that you base someones rugby knowledge on how many posts they have...
you sir are the epitomy of douchebaggery...enjoy your life behind a keyboard
 

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