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[2014 EOYT] France vs Argentina

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Vamos vamos pumas vamos vamos a ganaaaaaaaaar que nacieron hijos nuestroooooos hijos nuestros moriraaaaaaan
 
Vamos vamos pumas vamos vamos a ganaaaaaaaaar que nacieron hijos nuestroooooos hijos nuestros moriraaaaaaan

Hoy el cantito es:

Vamos vamos los pibes
Vamos vamos los pibes
Vamos vamos los pibes
Vamos vamos los pibes
Vamos vamos los pibes
Vamos vamos los pibes
Vamos vamos los pibes
Vamos vamos los pibes
Vamos vamos los pibes
 
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ay ay ay !! EASY on the vamos here Argenputas !!! :D

Argentina playing superb Rugby, lovely offloads, real attacking, good on the fundamentals, very realistic, accurate and as usual, afraid of NO ONE. HUGE on the impacts, in contact and in the rucks. Scrum holding up well for us...

And Argentina isn't winning because we're not a team. This isn't the France team that played the 6N and went to Australia in June. This is the new France. We're not playing great, but we're here. It's Argentina that is beating us fair and square.
Let's see this second half...;)
 
Morning Darwin.......I would go back to bed there really is nothing to entertain anyone here!!!!

I would, but I'm still fired up after watching the AB's game. I was hoping this match would put me to sleep, but alas the drop goals have keep me excited :)
 
ay ay ay !! EASY on the vamos here Argenputas !!! :D

Argentina playing superb Rugby, lovely offloads, real attacking, good on the fundamentals, very realistic, accurate and as usual, afraid of NO ONE. HUGE on the impacts, in contact and in the rucks. Scrum holding up well for us...

And Argentina isn't winning because we're not a team. This isn't the France team that played the 6N and went to Australia in June. This is the new France. We're not playing great, but we're here. It's Argentina that is beating us fair and square.
Let's see this second half...;)

I read this like a rhyme haha
 
Really dogged and courageous display from the "Kids" and looking like a very deserved win....................BE.....France are not playing well and have their tactics totally wrong in that they have been trying to play the game like the Pumas and not to their own strengths plus they have made far too many mistakes!
 
:cryy: fckng gutted. We started to look like the bad old France around that 3rd quarter of the game, that was scary...I really really wanted to make it 3/3, was sure it'd happen, and had got used to winning with a normal-looking France again...so this is very painful.

I'm not looking for excuses but how was that last disruption from the side on the last play from a Puma not a yellow like PSA was asking for ?

I'm glad we managed to score a real team try, from absolute scratch. Very positive signs going forward we can score like a team, not just playing personal hero ball. Glad we kept them try-less. But 4 DG I couldn't believe it. Lots of 3pointers left in the dust also, a couple of makeable ones...unfortunate.

But at least this wasn't France of 2013 til June 2014, and the Pumas were fkng awesome. Such intensity, nothing like what we'd seen in MF and much better than in Italy.
A good earned win in Paris, well done.

At least we beat Aus. I would've hated losing to Aus but beating Arg.
 
Agrentina really deserve this - France are only in this decision ironically because their scrum was cut to pieces and the ref found a penalty for them.
That was my thought too. What was that penalty about? Did one of our guys leave the formation early or something? What did i miss?
 
That was my thought too. What was that penalty about? Did one of our guys leave the formation early or something? What did i miss?

the no.18 TH prop scrummages at an angle the whole way and turns the scrum illegally without offering any serious pressure up front.
 
Uini was 120+ kgs for under 16s. He's a unit.

He's too heavy to play modern rugby, he must play American football. For some reason he was not picked by a Super Rugby franchise and Kiwis know too much about our sport. He's like Skelton, too much size but poor rugby skills
 
He's too heavy to play modern rugby, he must play American football. For some reason he was not picked by a Super Rugby franchise and Kiwis know too much about our sport. He's like Skelton, too much size but poor rugby skills

Skelton has come good rugby skills!

 
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hehe Skelton doesn't have skill ?? Conrad, I thought you watched SR, and the Aus sides in particular ? Come on man.
As for Atonio, I can only hold you accountable for speaking on one half of Rugby you saw from him. I understand you don't watch La Rochelle, but judging on 40min is lame. He's constantly praised for possessing skill for such a huge 140kg+ frame.
 
He's too heavy to play modern rugby, he must play American football. For some reason he was not picked by a Super Rugby franchise and Kiwis know too much about our sport. He's like Skelton, too much size but poor rugby skills

He was considered too unfit. Decided to leave NZ after a couple of goes for Counties.
 
For some reason, we can't play a perfect rugby match: today was the scrum. Of course is the youth-Ayerza wasn't able to give us his experience: the oldest trick in the book is to leave the other team push you to get early-push penalties. The whole match the same thing, and working one after the other one.

Poor decisions when we had them -that kick from Cubelli- and unable to close the match when we had to: Ireland, England or the other two monsters never do that.

In the good side, it's obvious that Nico Sánchez and Cubelli have great chemistry, and it seems Hourcade reads me carefully (LOL) and we have little Tomi as the starter. BTW, the kids showing how good PladAr is, beating the hell out of the french and demonstrating we have almost THREE players per position.

2/3, not bad, but shoulda been better.

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Sorry, I forgot, and it deserves its own post:

JAVIER ORTEGA DESIO
 
Skelton has come good rugby skills!



He played 7 test matches with the golden jersey and only was a true impact player against a poor French side at home?

Most Aussies have criticized him very hard, there are few who think he's an international level player. His scrum is poor, he can't hold the spine in place, he almost killed to Kepu in the scrums. His line-out is nonexistent and as impact player hasn't been such against top teams as NZ or SA, even against Argentina in Mendoza. Australia has a HUGE crisis in the second row and even he has failed to earn a place in the starting XV, plus he get tired fast. He isn't a world class player. Size is not everything.

Kane Douglas > Will Skelton
 
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He played 7 test matches with the golden jersey and only was a true impact player against a poor French side at home?

Most Aussies have criticized him very hard, there are few who think he's an international level player. Their scrum is poor, he can't hold the spine in place, he almost killed to Kepu in the scrums. His line-out is nonexistent and as impact player hasn't been such against top teams as NZ or SA, even against Argentina in Mendoza. Australia has a HUGE crisis in the second row and even he has failed to earn a place in the starting XV, plus he get tired fast. He isn't a world class player


Kane Douglas > Will Skelton

I see it differently, from the Tahs games I watched this year he was pretty good, and he's been pretty tidy for Australia too this year. If I remember correctly he wasn't selected for some of the games in the Rugby Championship this year, so it is hard to judge him against the top yet. Wasn't debating if he was World Class because he isn't. Pity Douglas chose to move to Leinster and move himself out of contention for Australia. He is a very good lock.

Anyway back to the game ...

Thought Argentina played well for large parts of the game, felt that France left it far to late to make a comeback.
 
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