A Political Thread pt. 2

[Bada-Bing!]

Evgeny Lebedev’s 1% attendance makes him among least active in House of Lords

Evening Standard owner among a series of peers who appear to play a minimal role without a formal leave of absence from Lords

www.theguardian.com

All the more reason to downsize the HoL and totally reform it.

 

[die_mole]

if the dems don't have a candidate's fascist son to reveal all the family secrets they don't do any opposition research

 

[Ragey Erasmus]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/health-63991278

If ever there was a story that perfectly summed up the state of this country...

 

[Ragey Erasmus]

Judge strips Alex Jones of bankruptcy protections for $1.5 billion Sandy Hook debt

Houston Judge Christopher M. López reportedly ended a stay preventing Sandy Hook families from collecting a $1.5 billion judgment against conspiracy theorist Alex Jones.In a ruling on Monday, López granted an order to lift a stay that was automatically put in place when Jones filed for Chapter...

www.rawstory.com

I really hope he has no ways to wriggle out of it. Yes the amount of ridiculous but I really hope this ******* crashes and burns.

 

[Gavin]

Two headlines. Each pushing a particular agenda

 

[die_mole]

Churchill was the last wartime leader to speak to Congress. First time in awhile news feels like must watch TV.

 

[Ragey Erasmus]

The police want to talk to Elon Musk’s security team over the alleged “stalking” incident

Musk used the “stalker” claim to ban several Twitter accounts.

www.theverge.com

Beginning to look like Musk's stalker claims were actually not true, now police are involved and certain details are not tying up with what musk claimed.

Who could have possibly seen that musk would lie to give an excuse for his manchild antics.

 

[McTallshort]

The police want to talk to Elon Musk’s security team over the alleged “stalking” incident

Musk used the “stalker” claim to ban several Twitter accounts.

www.theverge.com

Beginning to look like Musk's stalker claims were actually not true, now police are involved and certain details are not tying up with what musk claimed.

Who could have possibly seen that musk would lie to give an excuse for his manchild antics.

Musk will be building Xanadu soon and spend all his days there like some mental Bond villain

 

[Which Tyler]

Musk will be building Xanadu soon and spend all his days there like some mental Bond villain

Why do you think he wants to go to Mars?

And if you were a worker for him - would you trust him with your oxygen supply?

 

[Al Bangor]

 

[Bada-Bing!]

Donald Trump accused of multi-party conspiracy over 6 January attack

Trump is accused of a "multi-part" conspiracy in panel's final report on the 6 Jan riot.

www.bbc.co.uk

 

[ncurd]

Prime Minister

 

[Reiser99]

Prime Minister

In fairness the guy does talk about going into finance first. I reckon it's a bit tongue in cheek as he knows Sunak worked in finance, but Sunak misses it.

 

[Gavin]

23/12/2022

'We can manage perfectly well without them!': MPs round on Border Force strikers as Heathrow and Gatwick passengers praise 'brilliant' military for doing their job with 'record' efficiency

Border Force at six airports strike on busiest Xmas in three years

Passengers travelling through Heathrow airport this morning praised the Armed Forces for stepping in to man passport control, with one adding: 'Maybe this is the future,' as 1,000 Border Force staff strike.

www.dailymail.co.uk

24/12/2022

Soldiers and sailors covering for striking Border Force staff at passport control do not have the power to detain people they suspect of criminal activity, leaked documents show.

Emails reveal that people suspected of crimes such as carrying a false passport, drug smuggling, people trafficking and victims of modern slavery cannot be stopped by members of the armed forces if they hold valid travel documents.

UK Border Force strike: armed forces cannot detain people, emails reveal

Exclusive: those covering for staff have no power to stop suspected criminals if they have valid travel documents

www.theguardian.com

 

[McTallshort]

23/12/2022

Border Force at six airports strike on busiest Xmas in three years

Passengers travelling through Heathrow airport this morning praised the Armed Forces for stepping in to man passport control, with one adding: 'Maybe this is the future,' as 1,000 Border Force staff strike.

www.dailymail.co.uk

24/12/2022

UK Border Force strike: armed forces cannot detain people, emails reveal

Exclusive: those covering for staff have no power to stop suspected criminals if they have valid travel documents

www.theguardian.com

The armed forces are not buckshee manpower, to say "this maybe the future" is completely stupid. Given the current situation in Russia shall we cancel all Britain's NATOs exercise commitments to man passport control at airports? As for stopping criminals I believe military police have the power of arrest but I'm pretty sure your average squaddie doesn't otherwise I would have gone mad with the power trip!

 

[Reiser99]

So basically they are processing people at a record rate because basically as long as the passport is in date and the photo matches they wave you through as they have zero power to arrest.

 

[BrokenWing]

As for stopping criminals I believe military police have the power of arrest

I'm fairly sure military police have no powers of arrest outside of military affairs.

They may have powers of detention with regard to trespassing on MOD property, but even then civilian police would probably be called.

 

[McTallshort]

I'm fairly sure military police have no powers of arrest outside of military affairs.

They may have powers of detention with regard to trespassing on MOD property, but even then civilian police would probably be called.

No that's not true. Military police can be granted the power of arrest under certain civil circumstances. I am guessing although I may be wrong that if the military are given control of the border crossing that there will be some in their number that can make an arrest

 

[BrokenWing]

"Service police are not constables under UK law and do not have any constabulary powers over the general public, however they have the full range of policing power that constables possess when dealing with service personnel or civilians subject to service discipline."

I doubt they've had remotely as much training in the law as actual police.

 

[Yulia]

I'm fairly sure military police have no powers of arrest outside of military affairs.

It depends on the country,I think. In some countries, military police has such powers (or,at least, partially). In other countries,their powers are limited.
As for the UK, I found only something like that:

They have no power of arrest over service personnel nor are they a police organisation per se. Their primary purpose is to enforce breaches of service discipline at a local unit level.

And + Wikipedia: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Military_police_of_the_United_Kingdom

Royal Military Police - Wikipedia

en.m.wikipedia.org

The Royal Military Police (RMP) is the corps of the British Army responsible for the policing of army service personnel,

Some of the specific roles the RMP fulfill include:[9]​

• Law enforcement and crime prevention, within the service community
• Assistance to civilian police forces in garrison towns

So,as far as I understand, you were right regarding the UK military police, they can only "assist to civilian police forces" blabla

Often, the term 'military police' is considered synonymous with the Army's Royal Military Police

Why "royal" military police though...