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So laws should be subjective depending on risk?
Laws need to be enforced. The problem
As we all know is that falls on the police and they only have so many resources hence the lack of enforcement. And cyclists running red lights - well there's only so many police to stop and process them. So yes it's the enforcement that is based on risk and priorities.

As I have said it doesn’t make it right, but that is the society we live in. Full of self-centred people willing to take risks - whatever mode of transportation they are on.
 
Laws need to be enforced. The problem
As we all know is that falls on the police and they only have so many resources hence the lack of enforcement. And cyclists running red lights - well there's only so many police to stop and process them. So yes it's the enforcement that is based on risk and priorities.

As I have said it doesn't make it right, but that is the society we live in. Full of self-centred people willing to take risks - whatever mode of transportation they are on.
I think the issue is that the cyclist's and cycle groups justification on why they do it is because it's low risk when compared to cars.

200 cyclist's breaking the law in one hour isn't a few idiots.
 
I think the issue is that the cyclist's and cycle groups justification on why they do it is because it's low risk when compared to cars.

200 cyclist's breaking the law in one hour isn't a few idiots.
Yep, they take the risk; they are idiots. What more do you want me to say? They give other cyclists who don’t go through red lights a bad name.

But the stats bear it out that drivers kill and injure far more because they can be used a deadly weapons. That is not whataboutery. It’s just fact!
 
And they risk their own lives and impact on drivers who knock them off. Selfish impatient Cnuts. But the world is full of them unfortunately. But always said that they still do less damage than a driver in 1.5t of metal who run red lights than a twat on a bike doing so.

Already established that registration is not the answer so unfortunately just have to suck it up and if you do cycle then stop at red lights and ride with due care and attention.
If they were registered and then fined the same way a motorist is, then that behaviour would be slashed.

If a motorist kills a cyclist because the cyclist ran a red light, the driver has to live with the fact he killed someone for the rest of his life.

It maybe nightmares, depression, turns to drink or even maybe suicide because they can't live with it. Is that fair on the motorist?
 
If they were registered and then fined the same way a motorist is, then that behaviour would be slashed.
Nope, you either put people off of cycling or they wouldn’t bother registering/paying the registration fees and you’d have a system where it’s down to the police to also catch them for not being registered/insured.

It's exactly what is going on with e-scooters. And police do FA and why Govt keep putting off legalising/regulating them. And why peeps continue buying them and riding them where they want.

The system would cost a fortune and become defunct and they’d be wails of what a waste of money in the likes of the Heil.

Much easier and cheaper to demonise cyclists. But not all cyclists run red lights. I don’t.

If a motorist kills a cyclist because the cyclist ran a red light, the driver has to live with the fact he killed someone for the rest of his life.
It maybe nightmares, depression, turns to drink or even maybe suicide because they can't live with it. Is that fair on the motorist?
Hence why I said cyclists who run red lights are selfish idiots only thinking of the themselves.

And it’s not only motorists but their loved ones they leave behind.
 


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I have a special detest for Vine...

On the surface he documents dangerous driving, but the second you analyse what hes done its clear hes instigated and put him self in many situations.

I've ridden for decades, and I've had 1 maybe 2 bad incidents with drivers, and similar on my motorbike, but the second cameras are installed these riders get into an incident a week.

We all come across drivers making errors, most car drivers slow and stop and wait for the error to be rectified before moving on, some cyclists feel the need to see the error and speed into it to round it, while gesturing and feeling vindicated, and even create a nearer miss on purpose to exaggerate the error.

There was an incident with Vine a few years ago where his bike was run over by a delivery driver, who had turned right the wrong way up a one way street, Vine horned him, and then slowed, while shouting, and as the panicked driver reverses Vine rides behind hom, making himself invisible goes full left lock and stops, jumps off his bike and bangs the van until the driver gets out.

Vine merely needs to slow, stop and wait for the driver to rectify his error, like the cars behind him had done, but he intentionally puts himself behind the van for what I can only assume is for the camera, or because he doesn't deserve to be held up by others. Either way it was reckless. He also falsely accused a poor HGV driver, and as a lotnof people do make minor errors into larger incidents by creating conflict.

Honestly, I think cameras do more harm than good these days
 


Not sure Mikey is going to get away with this, throwing his bike into the path of a car for views...

Im not a cycling mikey fan, or a hater of his, I think his frustrations with breaking the rules are valid, especially when he first started his crusade, but as always hes probably gone too far and doesnt understand why.
 


Not sure Mikey is going to get away with this, throwing his bike into the path of a car for views...

Im not a cycling mikey fan, or a hater of his, I think his frustrations with breaking the rules are valid, especially when he first started his crusade, but as always hes probably gone too far and doesnt understand why.



Oops caught out mc

The twat actually caught himself out on his own videos claiming it was alright for him to cycle between the cones and continue. Whereas he should have dismounted and walked his bike on the pavement.

This suggests that any motorists who just got out of their car and moved the cones and continued would have been legitimate as well.

As to the video title, it should have read "I threw my cycle at a car and it got hit"

And, he threw his bike deliberately at a car he knew contained a child as he noted earlier in his video.
 
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Yeh he went too far in this one for sure. Was a hissy fit because the driver went through again. He has the driver’s number plate. Says Met police won’t do anything anyway so what was the point?

No way his insurance is going to pay out for any damage to his bike and equipment. All for him highlighting unsafe driving but this is one where he got wrong.
 
The problem Mikey, and his types have, is that a lot of the time they are technically in the right, the car is wrong, but just diving into the road to block their path puts the collision on you.

Cameras and ego can get you into a lot of trouble man
 
That's ******* unhinged and I've seen a hundred clips of Jeremy Vine being a maximum bellend. I hope he gets legally battered for it. Bonus points for - as all these geniuses manage to do - converting more motorists to hate cyclists
 

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