[2018 November Tests] Ireland vs New Zealand (17/11/18)

[LeinsterMan (NotTigsMan)]

Oh he wasn't involved tonight but no grudges. He just saw the bright side

I know I meant AI squad, becuase we all know the game is won in training.

 

[TRF_Olyy]

Let's be real.
Ireland picks a English player for their AI squad and they win v New Zeland at home for the first time.

Coincidence I think not.

English coach, English player, English referee

 

[Bruce_ma gooshvili]

I went with Ireland to win by 13 and I'll take that as a moral victory. If their lineout hadn't died after the substitutions I think they'd have had a more comfortable margin. They really needed more Best & Toner - I've always said they were the lynchpins of this Irish side

NZ centre combinations have been really misfiring in recent months and it is destroying their usual clinical execution. It's not panic stations for them, but before the last World Cup if felt like their second 23 could have been favourites. It is all very different now.

 

[TommiG88]

should be banned for that racism and homophobia ADMINS?

@corny should be banned for supporting it

You're embarrassing. Calling a nation pricks whilst getting crappy when people challenge you.

2 weeks of reading your hatred.

Bring on the 6 nations.

 

[Bruce_ma gooshvili]

I went with Ireland to win by 13 and I'll take that as a moral victory. If their lineout hadn't died after the substitutions I think they'd have had a more comfortable margin. They really needed more Best & Toner - I've always said they were the lynchpins of this Irish side

NZ centre combinations have been really misfiring in recent months and it is destroying their usual clinical execution. It's not panic stations for them, but before the last World Cup if felt like their second 23 could have been favourites. It is all very different now.

 

[munstermuffin]

I know I meant AI squad, becuase we all know the game is won in training.

And Mike Haley will be next in lol

 

[Steeler]

the lack of respect for a specialist 14 annoys me, we've got massive talent in that department, that should be used

 

[All Black]

the lack of respect for a specialist 14 annoys me, we've got massive talent in that department, that should be used

Naholo.

 

[Steeler]

outside backs has always been our strength, dunno why Hansen is trying to shoehorn players when we've got talent that can fill that role already

 

[Bean]

I think stats show NZ were out played a bit. From min 40 to Min 79 they had no presence in Irish 22. And only 3 points in 2nd half

Absolutely. But I'd take that over living in Ireland.

 

[Bean]

Barnes was brilliant today. Fair and very vocal communication.
If you are blaming him younare really clutching straws

Nah, he was good today. But, as I said, he's a moron. He should never have ref'd a game since 2007.

 

[munstermuffin]

Absolutely. But I'd take that over living in Ireland.

And that makes sense because .............

What are you. A 10 year old?

 

[munstermuffin]

Nah, he was good today. But, as I said, he's a moron. He should never have ref'd a game since 2007.

Again that is rubbish. Take the chip.off shoulder

 

[Bean]

And that makes sense because .............

What are you. A 10 year old?

It makes perfect sense.

 

[corny]

England wasn't that scary to us back then. They were good and played a great RWC but after they won the RWC in 2003, they would lose to us for almost a decade.

Besides Englands England. Ireland is Ireland. You guys are the big brother now.

Thats because half their team retired. Sure we beat them for fun in the years after that WC.

 

[Bean]

Again that is rubbish. Take the chip.off shoulder

No chip. We haven't seen Joubert for a very good reason and he made a significantly less serious error that Barnes.

 

[Leonormous Boozer]

Yes, but, big point here:

Irish players still live in Ireland. You can't call that a win. You just can't.

You can't call beating NZ a win... Fair af my dude.

 

[SomeOke]

The real question is how are Ireland playing manlet CJ Stander, don't you lads realize that pure brawn and size is all that matters. Games aren't won with talent.
This guy is clearly too small for international rugby.

Being serious for a second Ireland also won this one without your best player, keep that in mind. Furlong is a god, Stockdale as a 22 year old is an insane talent, Ringrose wow. Kearney wow. Your locks have no right to be this good, that's supposed to be our thing - how dare you. You are a terrifying team, was with some mates tonight who bemoaned the fact we aren't playing Ireland in our tour, I responded with "We really don't need another loss, count our blessings.".

AB fans, I know it hurts but do not fear. It's been a long harrowing year but you guys are winners, I didn't believe you would lose until the clock hit 80 minutes, even then I was convinced you would draw, so conditioned am I of your dominance, and that hasn't changed. Japan is neutral ground and for me you're still the favourites.

How I feel about the World Cup after this weekend:

 

[big ginger 8]

I've beaten James Ryan more times than New Zealand, hate that.

 

[Pom in Exile]

But England stopped playing rugby when the NZ'ers got on the front foot. They kicked the ball away numerous times and just looked to make tackles to win the game. Only when they went behind did they start to string phases together again and they still looked threatening. Thats what i'm talking about. If they were steadfast in their resolve to take the game to NZ they would have won imo. Hoping to win and expecting to win were the mindsets of the respective teams and NZ generally have that advantage in games. Its why they win so often at the death. Teams hand them the initiative.

Tbf, I think NZ generally take the advantage themselves, they are notoriously slow starters but tend to be great for the 10 minutes either side of halftime and normally go into overdrive in the last 20. NZ still have an 'aura' about them which mostly affects the officials imo. My point about Barnes was that he seems implacable to me and seems to ref the same way regardless of who is involved.
I'm sure that I'll be called delusional or paranoid etc but as an Englishman I often feel that some officials, subconsciously at least, would like to see England turned over. The Welsh touch judge from the other week was a classic example for me, reminded me of the hateful Steve Walsh.
Anyhoo, congrats to Ireland on a great win, although it wasn't a surprise to me.