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You want any of these cretins to have full power?

No but its always been a toss up between the lesser of 2 evils, Major or Kinnock, Blair or random tory, Brown or Cameron, Cameron or Milliband

I admit this time is harder for me because I would never vote for Corbyn, so I either don't vote or vote for Boris. I voted Green in the euros because its a proportional representative vote and as much as I strongly disagree with their attitudes to certain things I think a strong green voice is essential in Government.

But with FPTP your stuck with the two grim choices we have
 
So A&E wait times have risen to the worst ever, and Matt Hancock's comment on it?
"These figures show just how important it is that we stop Jeremy Corbyn."
 
So A&E wait times have risen to the worst ever, and Matt Hancock's comment on it?
"These figures show just how important it is that we stop Jeremy Corbyn."

It's painful. I saw a video where a Conservative MP was talking about how they came up with the cost of Labours plans, basically just fudged it together. The host then said to do the same with the Tories and suddenly it was unacceptable. The hypocrisy is staggering and the worst bit is the electorate are swallowing it.

Corbyn is doing himself no favours, there's enough fake stories about him flying around without his very real inability to compromise and projecting the image of yet another power mad politician.
 
I remember a time when you just voted for the party you wanted in power....

Which just led the to stagnation of swapping conservatives and labour. This country needs to get past a 2 party system and actually respect the fact that labour and conservatives don't cover everyone's views. I'm in a strong Con seat and while I will vote, in terms of the election it is utterly worthless.
 
Also what I find ridiculous is the Tories trying to portray the problems of the last few years on the fact that they didn't get a majority and so aren't their fault.

"Sod actually trying to work with other parties, we can't do anything unless you vote so that we have a majority."
 
Voting Lib Dem and throwing away my vote in a Tory stronghold, which voted leave 3 years ago.
 
Voting Lib Dem and throwing away my vote in a Tory stronghold, which voted leave 3 years ago.
Similar,
Voting Labour because there's no Green round here and I doubt I'll vote for Lib Dems in my life time.

Realistically I might as well wipe my arse with the ballot as Michael Fabric-**** will cruise it, probably increase his lead as I don't think there's a UKIP or Brexit Party candidate here either.
 
Labour in my area went from having a 3000 lead in the 2010 election to a 100 lead in the 2017.
At least it will be interesting to watch and not a given.
 
Also what I find ridiculous is the Tories trying to portray the problems of the last few years on the fact that they didn't get a majority and so aren't their fault.

"Sod actually trying to work with other parties, we can't do anything unless you vote so that we have a majority."

BoJo and his cronies refuse to take any responsibility for their time in office and will simply make things up to deflect it. His reason for calling this election was because the so called Remain Parliament was stuck and not able to deliver Brexit. What he fails to point out is that the Remain Parliament came about in 2017 and was arguably a fresher mandate than the 2016 referendum result and that he and his fellow Tories squandered the original majority they had which would have been enough to vote a deal through. His solution is to purge those MPs who are not voting the way he wants them to and replace them with his stooges via a campaign riddled with fake news and misinformation. Sounds democratic to me.
 
So Corbyn is promising free porn for the masses with his free broadband proposal.

I suppose that's one way of getting disconnected white working class voters back
 
Far be it from me to question the judicial system of an enlightened nation like Sweden but the dropping of the class against Assange does not reflect well on them. It plays into claims that it was a trumped up charge devised as a mechanism to get Assange answerable to the US for the Wikileaks stuff.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-50473792

I think guys like Snow and Assange are well meaning knobs, but the argument that evidence of Assange's sexual offending obtained 7 years ago has now somehow degraded, resulting in the case having to be dropped simply is not how evidence works (unless it is a case involving elderly witnesses with deteriorating health). It underlines that Assange's refusal to hand himself over was absolutely not the case of a sex offender trying to evade justice.

I take it the interpretation in Sweden will be that the justice system cannot have been politically manipulated Oggmonster?
 
Boris sounds like a blustering buffoon next to Corbyn,

Very Trumpian in his regurgitating of twitter length sound bites over actually saying anything of importance.
 
Boris sounds like a blustering buffoon next to Corbyn,

Very Trumpian in his regurgitating of twitter length sound bites over actually saying anything of importance.
And Corbyn looks like a dull Geography teacher who would spend hours boring his class with his political opinions
 
What a terrible terrible choice voters face in a couple of weeks. Both of these morons are utterly useless.
 
And Corbyn looks like a dull Geography teacher who would spend hours boring his class with his political opinions

A dull geography teacher who is wiping the floor with Johnson as he's producing facts and coherent arguements.

The handshake was cringy. A question about believing the politicians when Corbyn answers it and Johnson bumbles with not saying a thing
 
The moderator isn't great. Completely allowed Johnson to avoid talking about how much he's lied.
 
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