Aviva Premiership 2017/18 round 12

[Which Tyler]

Friday night, BTSport

Bath:
15. Anthony Watson
14. Jack Wilson
13. Jonathan Joseph
12. James Wilson
11. Aled Brew
10. Rhys Priestland
9. Kahn Fotuali'i

1. Beno Obano
2. Tom Dunn
3. Henry Thomas
4. Charlie Ewels
5. Luke Charteris
6. Matt Garvey (c)
7. Paul Grant
8. Zach Mercer

16. Michael van Vuuren; 17. Lucas Noguera; 18. Max Lahiff;19. Elliott Stooke; 20. James Phillips
21. Chris Cook; 22. Freddie Burns; 23. Darren Atkins


Wasps:
15. Willie Le Roux
14. Christian Wade
13. Juan De Jongh
12. Kyle Eastmond
11. Marcus Watson
10. Danny Cipriani
9. Dan Robson

1. Simon McIntyre
2. Tom Cruse
3. Jake Cooper-Woolley
4. Joe Launchbury ©
5. Kearnan Myall
6. James Haskell
7. Thomas Young
8. Nizaam Carr

16. Ashley Johnson; 17. Ben Harris; 18. Marty Moore; 19. James Gaskell; 20. Guy Thompson
21. Joe Simpson; 22. Rob Miller; 23. Gaby Lovobalavu

 

[TRF_Olyy]

15. James O'Connor; 14. Denny Solomona, 13. Sam James, 12. Rohan Janse Van Rensburg, 11.Byron McGuigan; 10. AJ MacGinty, 9. Faf De Klerk; 1. Ross Harrison, 2. Rob Webber, 3.WillGriff John, 4. Bryn Evans, 5. Andrei Ostrikov, 6. Jono Ross, 7. Ben Curry, 8. Josh Strauss.

Replacements: 16. Marc Jones, 17.James Flynn, 18. Halani Aulika, 19. George Nott, 20. Cameron Neild, 21. Will Cliff, 22. Mike Haley, 23. Marland Yarde

Yarde back from injury the only change to the 23 from last week

 

[Mrs. Peter Quinn]

Friday night, BTSport

Bath:
15. Anthony Watson
14. Jack Wilson
13. Jonathan Joseph
12. James Wilson
11. Aled Brew
10. Rhys Priestland
9. Kahn Fotuali'i

1. Beno Obano
2. Tom Dunn
3. Henry Thomas
4. Charlie Ewels
5. Luke Charteris
6. Matt Garvey (c)
7. Paul Grant
8. Zach Mercer

16. Michael van Vuuren; 17. Lucas Noguera; 18. Max Lahiff;19. Elliott Stooke; 20. James Phillips
21. Chris Cook; 22. Freddie Burns; 23. Darren Atkins


Wasps:
15. Willie Le Roux
14. Christian Wade
13. Juan De Jongh
12. Kyle Eastmond
11. Marcus Watson
10. Danny Cipriani
9. Dan Robson

1. Simon McIntyre
2. Tom Cruse
3. Jake Cooper-Woolley
4. Joe Launchbury ©
5. Kearnan Myall
6. James Haskell
7. Thomas Young
8. Nizaam Carr

16. Ashley Johnson; 17. Ben Harris; 18. Marty Moore; 19. James Gaskell; 20. Guy Thompson
21. Joe Simpson; 22. Rob Miller; 23. Gaby Lovobalavu

Well, I think we're due a loss to be honest.
Expecting the pitch to be a bit garbage following rainfall which will prevent the sort of game we all want to see. We've won 3 in a row here though and have some good momentum, so perhaps that'll count

 

[Which Tyler]

Pitch is rarely "garbage" to be fair, but I would expect it to be heavy underfoot; there's only so much drainage you can put in when you're 2 inches above the water table.

I think this one will come down to the conditions - we're due really heavy rain / hail, and some fairly high winds tonight. If they arrive before KO then that would favour Bath; if it holds off, then Wasps would have to be favourite - though surely only narrowly whichever way.

 

[Which Tyler]

Eastmond out, Lovobalavu to IC; which changes things a little

 

[Mrs. Peter Quinn]

Butchering a few chances but this is the best rugby we've played all season.

 

[Every Time Ref]

I knew this was happening from the first two phases, no defensive intensity

 

[Which Tyler]

Could someone pass the vaseline please?

Were not even slowing Wasps ball, let alone challenging at the tackle/ruck; and then we can't string 2 phases of our together.

 

[Mrs. Peter Quinn]

Why is Joseph jumping there, you're not allowed to do that I don't believe..

 

[Scotty]

Can someone clarify, is there a rule regarding jumping into tackles?

 

[Which Tyler]

You're not allowed to, I suspect he only got away with it as Wasps had pissed off the ref.
ETA: it's allowed close in to the ruck, or right by the try line as well, shouldn't be though.


Mind, Myall has entered a ruck from Fotuali'i's position a couple of times too, equally illegal

 

[ratsapprentice]

Not specifically, but it's considered to be dangerous play, so it's illegal.

I think unless you have a particularly egregious, or overtly cynical jump, it's fair to just say that there's no reason to penalise a tackler.

 

[Which Tyler]

Not specifically, but it's considered to be dangerous play, so it's illegal.

I think unless you have a particularly egregious, or overtly cynical jump, it's fair to just say that there's no reason to penalise a tackler.

Thanks, I always thought it was explicitly illegal - shows what I know

 

[Scotty]

You're not allowed to, I suspect he only got away with it as Wasps had pissed off the ref.
ETA: it's allowed close in to the ruck, or right by the try line as well, shouldn't be though.

So it is illegal. What if the tackler had got injured or the try had been scored? He would have been penilised yet because neither happened it got let off?...

 

[Which Tyler]

Is that the 3rd final warning for the Wasps props?
Or is it one each plus a team warning?

 

[Which Tyler]

Arse

 

[TRF_Olyy]

Hell of a game for a neutral, great battle between the Watson brothers

 

[TommiG88]

Watching the highlights. Still think it's a shame that Cips hasn't been given a chance with England under Jones.

 

[Scotty]

Both teams defence seemed lacking. Was a great game for a neutral though, although was hoping bath brought it back.

 

[ALJ]

15. James O'Connor; 14. Denny Solomona, 13. Sam James, 12. Rohan Janse Van Rensburg, 11.Byron McGuigan; 10. AJ MacGinty, 9. Faf De Klerk; 1. Ross Harrison, 2. Rob Webber, 3.WillGriff John, 4. Bryn Evans, 5. Andrei Ostrikov, 6. Jono Ross, 7. Ben Curry, 8. Josh Strauss.

Replacements: 16. Marc Jones, 17.James Flynn, 18. Halani Aulika, 19. George Nott, 20. Cameron Neild, 21. Will Cliff, 22. Mike Haley, 23. Marland Yarde

Yarde back from injury the only change to the 23 from last week

Fancy us to win this tbh - unbeaten at home, got a score to settle following the kicking away, Vellacott in for Heinz, approaching full strength and a sell out to boot.
Given your form, it's likely to be a god game regardless although it's bloody windy.
Can't wait!