England vs South Africa 20 / 11 / 2021

[WaterboySA]

No one enjoys watching collapsed scrums,

Lol, that's just cause your team does the collapsing part so beautifully.....(LOL, LOL)

 

[ncurd]

Lol, that's just cause your team does the collapsing part so beautifully.....(LOL, LOL)

England has traditionally had one of strongest scrums in the world with possibly SA being their only betters....

And there is actually nothing wrong with a collapsed scrum if the ball is played or there's a penalty. The issue is the 5 mins it took to get that point.

 

[Not Mike Brown's Sock]

Idk if this has been posted in here yet but it's hilarious

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[Lé Ddanno]

Idk if this has been posted in here yet but it's hilarious

Just getting an error

 

[ChicagoKid]

Americans tend to love physicality. It's why MMA has surged in the last decade, why the 3 most popular sports in America are combat sports, and why boxing used to be a global spectacle with American boxers.

Of all the international teams, the Boks are the ones who bring a level of NFL physicality intensity each game. France have the ability but it dropped off quickly on Sunday.

The Boks with their forward depth can smother you for 80 minutes and I find that highly entertaining.

 

[Not Mike Brown's Sock]

Just getting an error

Fixed it

 

[Which Tyler]

Fixed it

In that case, just Rassie being Rassie

 

[Jakedood]

Americans tend to love physicality. It's why MMA has surged in the last decade, why the 3 most popular sports in America are combat sports, and why boxing used to be a global spectacle with American boxers.

Of all the international teams, the Boks are the ones who bring a level of NFL physicality intensity each game. France have the ability but it dropped off quickly on Sunday.

The Boks with their forward depth can smother you for 80 minutes and I find that highly entertaining.

Good to have a fan from anywhere in the globe

Safe to say everyone can agree

Different people like different teams, hell not everyone chooses teams because they're "popular choice". It happens all over the world, but different styles make this game great, just not a fan of teams trying to play SA playing like SA, that's kinda how the game gets boring, and SA win at it anyway!

That and no one wants the medic to be on the pitch on the field of play. What a dumbass. Hopefully looked at and some sort of punishment if it happens again, could be so dangerous.

However lols at rugby v NFL physicality. Its much easier to be physical when only fo 3-4 seconds every 30 secs

 

[Leonormous Boozer]

To be fair if an attractive free flowing style was all you were after every neutral would just have to support France or Ireland, maybe NZ when they get up ahead of steam.

 

[ncurd]

Two minutes was long enough to lose patience. (actually the music just did)

That overanalyses of every decision a referee makes will kill the game far quicker than anything else that's been suggested.

 

[Jakedood]

Two minutes was long enough to lose patience. (actually the music just did)

That overanalyses of every decision a referee makes will kill the game far quicker than anything else that's been suggested.

Tbf a couple of things missed which I understand a little (mostly the will Stuart maul D which was so early)
But still refs can't pick up everything, and better rugby perhaps won on the day. Either way a great game of styles, and either could have won

 

[ncurd]

Tbf a couple of things missed which I understand a little (mostly the will Stuart maul D which was so early)
But still refs can't pick up everything, and better rugby perhaps won on the day. Either way a great game of styles, and either could have won

Its the one sided nature of it that's the real issue in poisoning minds its playing a victim card but I'm 99% sure if you did the same level of analysis you'll find a bunch of similar calls that went against England.

 

[Which Tyler]

Its the one sided nature of it that's the real issue in poisoning minds its playing a victim card but I'm 99% sure if you did the same level of analysis you'll find a bunch of similar calls that went against England.

Only 99%?

 

[ncurd]

Only 99%?

There's a change I could be wrong.....I did say there was no way in hell Trump would ever be president after all I need to hedge by bets a little.

 

[ChicagoKid]

However lols at rugby v NFL physicality. Its much easier to be physical when only fo 3-4 seconds every 30 secs

It's a different sport. The force generated by NFL players is much higher because they can be much bigger due to frequent stoppages.

The whole "Who are the tougher men?" schtick is pretty dumb and hurts rugby. An American isn't going to watch rugby and be like, "Wow! They are so physical". A better argument would be is that every single player is both an offensive and defensive player, so everyone needs to be physical. Over the last decade, the NFL has treated QB's like Virgin Marys - you can barely touch them or you will be penalized and receive a $25,000 fine.

Marcus Smith is a small guy, but he is forced to tackle. He did it quite poorly on Saturday, but he did it and stuck his head in there to help his team win.

 

[Scotty]

Idk if this has been posted in here yet but it's hilarious

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Its rediculous! According to That Video it seems that SA did nothing wrong, every ref decision against them was the ref out to get them and should have won. How can the ref be biased when he penalised England about 20 times in the second half (dont know the real number but our discipline was terrible)

That type of biased analysis of any game could be done for any game.

 

[Lé Ddanno]

Its rediculous! According to That Video it seems that SA did nothing wrong, every ref decision against them was the ref out to get them and should have won. How can the ref be biased when he penalised England about 20 times in the second half (dont know the real number but our discipline was terrible)

That type of biased analysis of any game could be done for any game.

18 pens to SAs 8 in the match

 

[Becca]

18 pens to SAs 8 in the match

But that can't be right because SA were treated much more harshly than we were

 

[Nudger]

18 pens to SAs 8 in the match

One was for may not rolling away while he was rolling away

 

[Leonormous Boozer]

Not claiming bias at all but losing the penalty count 18-8 and coming away with less yellow cards is... Unusual.

Fiji only gave away 13 penos v Wales last week for 2 yellows and a [not relevant to the argument] red. Probably my biggest pet peeve with rugby now is how inconsistent the team yellow is. Don't know why we're ranking penalties by their position on the pitch for it, we already have yellows for cynical penalties stopping try scoring opportunities and penalty tries for that.