[November Tests 2017 EOYT] Wales vs. New Zealand (25/11/2017)

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  1. TRF_heineken

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    Venue: Principality Stadium
    Time: 19:15 CAT (SA, GMT+2)
     
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    Not exactly confident about this one. Wales showed a bit of promise against Aus but with 14 changes against Georgia the team didn't get any more time to bed in and get used to this new system. As long as Williams is fit I would expect the same team that played against Aus but with Tirpuic at 7.
     
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    Just been announced that Liam Williams is injured (huge loss) and is out as well as Cuthbert (not a loss). Another wing I assume will be called up, not sure who though, Tom James? This all but confrims a Amos, Halfpenny and Evans back 3.

    In the press conference today Shaun Edwards talked about Roberts starting 13............

    if that happens I might just end it.
     
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    Expect/hope to see:

    01 Rob Evans
    02 Ken Owens
    03 Tom Francis (doesn't sound like Lee is fit, and certainly isn't match fit)
    04 Jake Ball
    05 Alun-Wyn Jones
    06 Aaron Shingler
    07 Justin Tipuric
    08 Taulupe Faletau

    09 Rhys Webb
    10 Dan Biggar (I would like to see Priestland, but maybe too much change in midfield then)
    11 Steff Evans
    12 Owen Williams
    13 Scott Williams (who else?)
    14 Halam Amos
    15 Leigh Halfpenny

    16 Eliot Dee (don't think Dacey is good enough personally)
    17 Wyn Jones (scrummaging should come first, and Nicky Smith needs to improve in that department)
    18 Leon Brown
    19 Seb Davies
    20 Josh Navidi
    21 Gareth Davies
    22 Rhys Priestland
    23 Owen Watkin
     
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    I agree with this team.

    I'm starting to get more and more disillusioned with the coaching setup from their comments in press conferences and actions with selections etc. Their lack of awareness to what the public's issues are are ridiculous and somehow the don't see what every single other person can see in rugby, i.e continuation of picking Cuthbert, Sam Cross getting in the squad instead of Thomas Young.
     
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    What's happened to Lydiate?
     
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    He is still there, captained the side that played Georgia last week, has been injured for almost a year coming back a few weeks into the season. He's also the same as always, strong in defence but doesn't really offer anything else. Shingler is a great athlete that will get round the park, much more useful with the ball in hand as well as the lineout.
     
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    No Cuthbert? Game over Wales, Game over
     
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    https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby...acks-are-not-the-fearsome-team-they-once-were
    "Former Wales captain Gwyn Jones says the All Blacks are 'not the fearsome team' they once were."
    this is annoying because this gets said every few years. ABs arent gods. theyre human. this aura you go on about isnt constructed by the ABs. the ABs train to be a better team, they dont build "aura's"
    i really wish people would stop saying this and then making out that it will make a difference to how the ABs perform. whether youre intimidated by their aura or not really is your own problem
     
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    On Monday Wales have a **% chance.
    Cuthbert is injured.
    Wales' chances immediately improve by 200%

    On a serious note, I don't see wales winning. Too many injuries and too much experimentation to beat a team that is well established.
     
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    Sad to say for a NH side, but Wales are looking at a hiding. Too many key players missing.
     
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    Scotland had heaps of injuries and really took it to the ABs.
    as they say in the NFL "any team can beat any other team on any given Sunday"
    ABs need to consider that welsh can beat them and prepare accordingly
     
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    Not looking rosy is it?? Without our 2 most potent threats L Williams and JD2 we have zero chance of worrying this AB side . ABs superior in every aspect of the game ( attacking continuity , set piece and Defense ) can’t see how we even begin to win this one! All we can hope for is a decent performance and fight from the boys and if we get that then it may be a decent result .
     
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    heart and refusal quit. pss in the wind and d4m them all!!!
     
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    [QUOTE ="MikeTheNative, post: 880327, member: 74084"]Just been announced that Liam Williams is injured (huge loss) and is out as well as Cuthbert (not a loss). Another wing I assume will be called up, not sure who though, Tom James? This all but confrims a Amos, Halfpenny and Evans back 3.

    In the press conference today Shaun Edwards talked about Roberts starting 13............

    if that happens I might just end it.[/QUOTE]
    Yeah me too, for fucks sake every time we take a step forward selectors knock us back a step, progress seems to stand still
     
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    Shaun Edwards: "Even though the All Blacks only had 40 per cent possession, they still scored three tries and were very dangerous. But starving them of the ball is one way of keeping their attack quiet."
    yeah that's one way but more accurately (as Scotland did) you have use the ball constructively.
     
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    Wales at home.
    Never easy.
     
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    I don't know about that for NZ. Gats has never come closer than 7 points. I think it could be a bad one for the Welsh.
     
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    Expected Welsh team according to WalesOnline (who usually get these things right):

    The probable Wales team: 15. Leigh Halfpenny, 14. Steff Evans, 13. Scott Williams, 12. Owen Williams, 11. Hallam Amos, 10. Dan Biggar, 9. Rhys Webb, 1. Rob Evans, 2. Ken Owens, 3. Tomas Francis, 4. Jake Ball, 5. Alun Wyn Jones, 6. Aaron Shingler, 7. Josh Navidi, 8. Taulupe Faletau

    Replacements: Gareth Davies, Jamie Roberts, Rhys Priestland, Cory Hill, Kristian Dacey, Leon Brown, Justin Tipuric, Wyn Jones

    Better than I expected if true. I probably would have gambled a little and started Tipuric, but the coaching team should know best there. Good impact available on the bench, apart from Roberts that is! Injuries have maybe forced his inclusion somewhat, but I'd have preferred to see Watkin as the back-up instead.

    Good to see Wyn Jones getting the nod. Should ensure our scrum remains competitive till the end.
     
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    That team could be worse I suppose and because of injuries there is not much else they could have done. I'm not sure what the point of having Jamie Roberts on the bench is though, might have had Seb Davies on there instead of Cory Hill.
     
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