England 2023/24

[Don't Skip Leg Day]

Forgot Luke Green had signed at Saints for next season. Hopefully we turn him into a scrummaging machine just like we have for…..no one (since the days of Tiny and Mujati).

 

[BPM]

I didn't know he had signed for Saints. With Iyogun, Haffar and now Green, you have a nice stable of promising young props.

 

[TRF_Olyy]

West has signed for Saints too, hasn't he? Pretty stacked at loosehead, even considering the departures

 

[Don't Skip Leg Day]

Luke Green is a tight head.

So next season we have:

LH - Iyogun, Haffer, West
TH - Davidson, Miller-Mills, Luke Green

Good set of props really.

 

[BPM]

Not sure how much credence to give to this: https://www.planetrugby.com/news/re...cluding-the-peerless-counter-attacking-threat

Not for me thanks.

 

[TRF_Olyy]

Clearout the entire backroom staff if they're actually considering that, what a joke

Go coach the Barbarians, or a club side, if you don't actually want to coach an international side

 

[Don't Skip Leg Day]

I can't see it either. None of those players scream international to me at all.

 

[Reiser99]

I don't like it either tbh. I feel back row easily has enough that we don't need to look elsewhere. Possibly Van Rensburg in the centres might be useful. Green can be excellent at times, but I don't see him as an improvement on what we already have.

 

[Pieter Steph du Teague]

Clearout the entire backroom staff if they're actually considering that, what a joke

Go coach the Barbarians, or a club side, if you don't actually want to coach an international side

This article is pure rage bait. There's no actual insight whatsoever about what the England staff think of these players; it's pretty clear some journalist has just made a few player profiles and whacked a controversial headline on it for clicks.

I can't see it either. None of those players scream international to me at all.

Personally think Vermeulen would be an upgrade on our current 6 options. He's absurdly strong. I wouldn't actually want him in an England setup though for fairly obvious reasons.

 

[Ragey Erasmus]

Not sure how much credence to give to this: https://www.planetrugby.com/news/re...cluding-the-peerless-counter-attacking-threat

Not for me thanks.

Nothing wrong with keeping an eye on who is qualified but that article doesn't say anything other than they are keeping their options open. The rest is just the author speculating. Not too worried tbh. If they start appearing on the team sheets, then I'll get annoyed.

 

[Scotty]

I don't like it either tbh. I feel back row easily has enough that we don't need to look elsewhere. Possibly Van Rensburg in the centres might be useful. Green can be excellent at times, but I don't see him as an improvement on what we already have.

BJVR is the only one id considerand thats pretty much only because our stocks at 12 are pretty weak. Good prospects but they are young and likely not ready. This is from a qualified player point of view.

It just feels wrong. He isnt a project player, he just happened to play in the country long enough to qualify. I dont like it and arnt really onboard with it but wouldnt blame him for going for international honors.

Honestly though i dont see it happening.

 

[Saintjay]

Not sure how much credence to give to this: https://www.planetrugby.com/news/re...cluding-the-peerless-counter-attacking-threat

Not for me thanks.

Semi decent article by Charlie Morgan. He picks up on the SA contingent at the end of the article as well.

What Steve Borthwick would have liked about the Premiership season – and causes for concern

England head coach will be delighted by the progress made by several homegrown talents as his team evolves towards the tour of New Zealand

www.telegraph.co.uk

 

[Which Tyler]

For those without a subscription: https://archive.ph/h3ciS

 

[Noonz]

Semi decent article by Charlie Morgan. He picks up on the SA contingent at the end of the article as well.

What Steve Borthwick would have liked about the Premiership season – and causes for concern

England head coach will be delighted by the progress made by several homegrown talents as his team evolves towards the tour of New Zealand

www.telegraph.co.uk

Can you summarize the main points for the non-subscribers?

 

[Saintjay]

Can you summarize the main points for the non-subscribers?

Try this https://archive.ph/h3ciS

Kindly provided by @WhichTyler

 

[Which Tyler]

Dan Biggar's view on Smith vs Smith

 

[Don't Skip Leg Day]

Premiership team of the season. Only 2 players (3 if you count Lawes) un eligible to play for England.

If you replace Du Toit and Wiese would this be a good england team? It's a good mix there.

 

[Reiser99]

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Premiership team of the season. Only 2 players (3 if you count Lawes) un eligible to play for England.

If you replace Du Toit and Wiese would this be a good england team? It's a good mix there.

Definitely not a bad starting point.

 

[Saintjay]

Isn't Tyrone Green one of the South African's nobody seemed to want a few days ago.

 

[Don't Skip Leg Day]

Isn't Tyrone Green one of the South African's nobody seemed to want a few days ago.

Yes but in the context of using a prem 15 for an England team he works. He's a good player but he's not as good as Furbank.