France vs New Zealand

Discussion in 'International Test Matches' started by Aout, Nov 22, 2009.

  1. Aout

    Aout Guest

    France :

    AVANTS (forwards) (13) : Fabien BARCELLA (Biarritz), Thomas DOMINGO (Clermont Auvergne), Sylvain MARCONNET (Stade français), Nicolas MAS (Perpignan), Dimitri SZARZEWSKI (Stade Français), William SERVAT (Stade toulousain), Sébastien CHABAL (Racing-Métro 92), Lionel NALLET (Racing Métro 92), Romain MILLO-CHLUSKI (Stade Toulousain), Thierry DUSAUTOIR (Stade Toulousain, cap), Julien BONNAIRE (Clermont Auvergne), Julien PURICELLI (Aviron Bayonnais), Fulgence OUEDRAOGO (Montpellier HRC)

    ARRIERES (backs) (10) : Julien DUPUY (Stade Français), Morgan PARRA (Clermont Auvergne), François TRINH-DUC (Montpellier), Yannick JAUZION (Stade Toulousain), David MARTY (Perpignan), Maxime MERMOZ (Perpignan), Maxime MEDARD (Stade Toulousain), Damien TRAILLE (Biarritz),Vincent CLERC (Stade Toulousain), Benjamin FALL (Aviron Bayonnais)

    Comments :

    - Imanol HARINORDOQUY is injured.
    - Cédric HEYMANS has not been selected in the list. His place has been taken by Benjamin FALL, who is currently the Top 14 best try scorer.
    - All the players play in the Top 14

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  3. Bernard

    Bernard Guest

    I'm disapointed that they do not choose Yann David instead of Jauzion (or Marty) , that was the occasion to give more experience to this future strong back line ...
  4. Nickdnz

    Nickdnz Guest

    Have to agree that this match will be the most titanic of the tour France bet us in New Zealand (I was so annoyed I abused a mate after a few too many), the match after we lost the World Cup. We bet them in the last game, however that was in NZ and it was pretty unconvincing. France has gained momentum by destroying the formor #1 team South Africa, so no doubt the All Blacks will have their work cut out for them.

    This should be a very good game, and I hope it will be entertaining with alot of running Rugby.
  5. alexrugby

    alexrugby Guest

    All Blacks win I am sure in this
  6. Bernard

    Bernard Guest

    Seeing the performance against boks , i would not be so sure about that ...In the mean time , knowing France is not always handling their own confidence very well over several matches , you could be right ;)
  7. Aout

    Aout Guest

    We just learned that Benjamin FALL is injured as well, and Lièvremont decided to call Yann DAVID back. Now there is only one proper winger among the 23, Vincent CLERC. Maxime MEDARD might start on the wing, but he's not really a winger, he always play full back in his club. It's gonna be hard on next Saturday.

    A good option would have been to include HEYMANS in the list.
  8. MunsterMan

    MunsterMan Guest

    Louis Picamoles? I thought he played well against SA, strange they dropped him especially considering Imanol is injured.
  9. <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (MunsterMan @ Nov 22 2009, 04:45 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div>

  10. monkeypigeon

    monkeypigeon Guest

    What's happened to Malzieu?
  11. bates

    bates Guest

    I hope they broadcast it live :)
    Most likely it will be a very tight game = fun
  12. Mr.cyclopede

    Mr.cyclopede Guest

    Picamoles is injured, was already uncertain for next week-end, and his absence is now certain.

    Prefer to see Yann David than Benjamin Fall. A pure winger will miss but glad to see a solid man like Yann instead, as All Blacks will put an incredible physical pressure. From our last visit, they are aware that we can not only prevent them to devellop their game, but also to take the place for our.

    Can't wait for the match
    Don't know if France is already a Titanic, but the iceberg is black for sure !
  13. Bernard

    Bernard Guest

    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Monkeypigeon @ Nov 22 2009, 05:28 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div>

    He had a lot of physical problems along the year so he is not at 100% but i think we will maybe see him again for the 6N ...

    For informations , he has played for the french 7's team at dubai in last June ...this guy has played for french 7's team before playing for french rugby union team .
  14. Rafa_1984

    Rafa_1984 Guest

    I think that without Picamoles and Harinordoquy it is going to be a pretty different match that the one with SA.
  15. thomas

    thomas Guest

    It's weird to think that France for once are favorites, and even more as they are receiving the All Blacks in the Velodrome...

    Have only seen highlights of the Wales and of the England game, but there's a definite statement to be said here, the only impressive things those ABs have to show at the moment are :

    - Dan Carter: best kicking, great vision, simply the best and most complete fly-half in the world
    - Richie McCaw: best open-side flanker, tackler, ball-stealer, a wonderful player, maybe the only one today ahead of Dusautoir on this category of player.
    - Mils Muliaina: great back, one of the most skillful in the world

    Apart from those 3, there isn't any major threat... ABs are still in my eyes a (little) bit favored by refs, and Kiwis forward have received half the yellow cards they deserve, on certain times... on certain occasions, "Richie roll away!!!!" makes more sense than "tackler roll away!!!" :))

    I think it will be a close win for France, remember once seeing on TV a former France-international saying "when they aren't playing in black, they're really not that impressive..."

    Hope he's right :)
  16. thomas

    thomas Guest

    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Monkeypigeon @ Nov 23 2009, 05:28 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div>
    out of form and under pressure in club, as Rougerie (captain) and Nalaga (best try-scorrer, monster hands-off) are un-droppable
  17. shazbooger

    shazbooger Guest

    I havent been impressed with New Zealand to be honest ........... but that is in comparison to their usual lofty standards. Add to that the fact that they havent really been pushed out of 2nd gear so far and its probably fair enough.

    This is going to be a damn fine game though. heres hoping France get the grunt aspect of it right again as they did against SA.
  18. alexrugby

    alexrugby Guest

    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Bernard @ Nov 22 2009, 07:34 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div>
    Well predicting this match's fate I did not mean French guys have to work on their confidence but anyway I agree you: I was astonished by French losing match against Pumas on RWC 2003 after triumph over ABs

    and also I did not mention about the very unpleasant for ABs tradition whereby Les Bleus always manage to jump over ABs ;)

    Indeed everything is possible

    The match gonna be fascinating I think
  19. Nickdnz

    Nickdnz Guest

    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Aout @ Nov 23 2009, 04:13 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div>
    Why isn't Haymans in the team? He scored an amazing try against New Zealand last time.

    My money is on the All Blacks. We have been getting better each game, even if it is at baby steps, and I think France will push us to either a good performance, or a terrible defeat. I wouldn't rate France as favourites, as the last AB side they beat was less then a shadow of the current AB side, with no McCaw and Carter. The match should be very interesting to say the least.
  20. gingergenius

    gingergenius Guest

    My money is nowhere because France are involved. Looking at form - France beat the ABs in the summer, they beat South Africa which the ABs cannot do, and they looked far more impressive against Samoa than Wales did. New Zealand look quite average at the moment. On form I'd back the French. However, the chances are the French will now go on and not turn up at all.
  21. wjd23104

    wjd23104 Guest

    No doubt this is the biggest game of the autumn. I'm very nervous about this. Abs stuck in second gear and the French tippng up SA makes for an interesting game.
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