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I think you're reaching on the hand holding thing to be honest but neither of us can prove Gatlands rationale either way.Oh come on, the only reason Gareth Davies and his inferior kicking game was selected V England was because he had to hold Llpyds hand...
Both of them kicked disgracefully, if Lloyd played for Ireland and kicked like that V Italy hed halve been on a train home by the 30th minute.
Lloyd giving away that scrum under his own post, then closing his eyes before diving out of Earl's way isnt a platform issue.
Fact is Wales do not have, and have rarely ever had a big pack, what we breed is hard working dog like forwards who need to be led.
Look at some of the packs Biggar, and Stephen Jones played behind, they werent good players because of the platform, they were good players because they directed play.
I'm not saying Lloyd is expected to do so, but he hasnt got 10 games at qot under his belt, and little timmy at Ystrad Rhonda u12's was screaming 'kick it you twat'
Yeah he made some mistakes, I don't know what else to say, I don't see them as unforgivable ones at all. Jesus, Biggar made some pretty bad ones during the WC. It happens.
Do you really think Lloyd would look the same/worse behind the French/Irish pack? Im just saying I think it's reasonable to say that with quick ball and behind a more functioning unit he'd look better. Totally accept he has to deal with the hand he's been dealt with though and he has to adapt.