Ireland v England, 10/02/13

[big ginger 8]

My friend has a girlfriend who went to England, I've watched three Hugh Grant films and I own a Garry Glitter album. I think I'm pretty much an expert on the English. All terrible people.

That's enough to play for their rugby team!...

 

[Peat]

That's enough to play for their rugby team!...

 

[Big Ewis]

Bleddy hell!
Is there an antipodean type 'cultural cringe' going on with you yoe91?
Flattered to think that the foibles of us English takes up so much of your time!

Jokes aside, that's the crazy part. I deal fairly rarely with British ppl, there's a ton here in Qatar but it's just not my crowd. But there have been so many examples in my life, out of the limited encounters with English ppl I've had, where all I'm saying; that very peculiar chauvinism/superiority attitude; has been very apparent and obvious. I then collected those memories and thoughts and now it's just a concrete-solid conclusion.
In fact, since we're at it:
it is a fairly fascinating thing, how the British who were this one Germanic tribe parted ways, fled Central Continental Europe, and then became what they've become - and have this very special isolated attachment to their own, different from anything else in Europe, and this uniquely strong attachment to "the Colony". I've always seen the English as ants, not in a derogatory way at all, just in nature. All these ants, working hard and in great organization; "for the colony", the Queen seems to have this great value, implicit importance...it's symbolic of course today, but still - don't touch the Queen...and English ppl tend to be extremely touchy when others talk about these things (Queen, the country, the Rugby team...etc...), while other countries would take all that with more lightness...

But this has absolutely nothing to do with this thread any more, I'm sorry for straying out so wide here. Not my intention to mess around here guys, this is just my natural reply to that above comment !

 

[Aristodemus]

I have always seen the French as like a giant steaming pile of ****, leaping out of a cow's arse as if Jonah Lomu was running right at it. Not in a derogatory sense at all, just my opinion.

You have a ridiculous viewpoint on English people, or are we encompassing Britain now Yoe?

 

[Feicarsinn]

]I have always seen the French as like a giant steaming pile of ****[/B], leaping out of a cow's arse as if Jonah Lomu was running right at it. Not in a derogatory sense at all, just my opinion.

You have a ridiculous viewpoint on English people, or are we encompassing Britain now Yoe?

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[Aristodemus]

I don't actually think that Feicarsinn.

 

[TRF_Cymro]

 

[SelimNiai]

I have always seen the French as like a giant steaming pile of ****, leaping out of a cow's arse as if Jonah Lomu was running right at it. Not in a derogatory sense at all, just my opinion.

You have a ridiculous viewpoint on English people, or are we encompassing Britain now Yoe?

Theres a line and with that I think you've crossed it.

 

[Amiga500]

Naw - swing her a bit to port there and ye've a more accurate view of where this thread is going!!


Batten down the hatches adminge!!!

 

[Draggs]

The ****? I am off the forum for two days and this happens.
Who is to blame this time?

 

[Aristodemus]

Theres a line and with that I think you've crossed it.

It wasn't a serious comment, and it was trying to prove a point. I will make it absolutely clear. Yoe compared English people to insects amongst other things before claiming it wasn't derogatory, I simply was trying to prove that saying something isn't derogatory does not make it so.

 

[SelimNiai]

It wasn't a serious comment, and it was trying to prove a point. I will make it absolutely clear. Yoe compared English people to insects amongst other things before claiming it wasn't derogatory, I simply was trying to prove that saying something isn't derogatory does not make it so.

Ok but in future prove your point in a way that it can't be construed as being OTT

 

[irelandfan123]

Soooooooooooooo what do you think this means for both teams for the next match? Anyone think Ireland still have a chance of winning this championship or will England have the slam?

 

[Largejanner]

The ****? I am off the forum for two days and this happens.
Who is to blame this time?

It`s that pesky England rugby team, they went and won again!

 

[Amiga500]

The ****? I am off the forum for two days and this happens.
Who is to blame this time?

Its that useless c**t Radge.

He was told to kick this argument to touch ages ago... but the useless sh!te might as well have hit an air-shot at it. :lol:

 

[TRF_Cymro]

 

[Big Ewis]

:lol:

I WAS THINKING THAT EXACT SENTENCE IN MY HEAD !!!! havin a good laugh right now !!....boy oh boy, I think I better keep my mouth shut !! (and please, no sarcastic "yeh I think you should", I'm just havin fun here guys relax a little)..
Hhoooo wowwwwwww !!! That was brutal !!

I wasn't thinking of the "insect" aspect of the ant comparis......well, what's the use, too much is too much !

 

[McTallshort]

Soooooooooooooo what do you think this means for both teams for the next match? Anyone think Ireland still have a chance of winning this championship or will England have the slam?

Championship is wide open, no team (apart from Italy) has really shown what they can really do. I dont think England will get the slam yet its just too early but they may prove me wrong they have in the past. The next set of games will be make or break for Wales, England, Ireland, Scotland or Italy. (France have already lost two so they dont have a chance). Italy will not win another and I am not sure Scotland will either. So it leaves just 3 and I hope that's England who will win the next 2 but lose in Cardiff.

 

[Largejanner]

:lol:

I WAS THINKING THAT EXACT SENTENCE IN MY HEAD !!!! havin a good laugh right now !!....boy oh boy, I think I better keep my mouth shut !! (and please, no sarcastic "yeh I think you should", I'm just havin fun here guys relax a little)..
Hhoooo wowwwwwww !!! That was brutal !!

I wasn't thinking of the "insect" aspect of the ant comparis......well, what's the use, too much is too much !

I have`nt laughed as much since that documentary on the sinking of the french fleet at Mers el Kebir!

 

[Taylo2]

Just my thoughts from my small corner of the stadium:

Firstly, it was my first trip to Ireland, and besides the rugby, I quite enjoyed my short break in Dublin. Lovely city, some lovely buildings/statues, and small enough to walk to most places, without it seeming too busy. Often a problem with smaller city centers is they seem crowded and busy, but despite the rugby weekend, it didn't seem over busy, which was nice. Had a great meal after the game in a place called the Chophouse....well recommended to anyone visiting the city.

Well onto the rugby....

Firstly, yes it was wet, and the pitch cut up a bit, but genuinely I was surprised how few mistakes were made due to the conditions. A few handling errors here and there, but nothing in comparison to many games i've seen played in similar conditions. Irelands big name players, simply did not perform. I don't know why, was it down to England players keeping them quiet, or because they just had an off day, I'm not sure, maybe a mix of both. If Sexton stayed fit, then I think the result would have been different, his injury was a certain turning point, and his exit certainly buoyed the boys in white. The packs appeared to be similarly matched, neither side having a major dominance in the scrum, but I think I'm right in thinking the stats are in favour of Ireland? I didn't see the Healy incident, still haven't as I'm about to watch the highlights after I write this. Similarly, Haskell's yellow, it looked harsh from what i've seen on the big screen, but I need to see it again, i've heard it was warranted, if this is true, so be it.

Farrell is in good form, both for club and country, I hope this continues throughout the tournament. The next game against France is by no means a gimmie. While yes we've had some good results recently, this team is still a major work in process. There will still be lows before any real highs can be met. If there is any game France will target for a performance it's against us...always happens, RWC 11 is a prime example. And of course the Wales game is going to be a tough affair. Both very different challenges, but ones I think, or at least hope, England can meet head on.

Its an exciting time for England fans, after the dark days of RWC11, the side has been stripped down and now being rebuilt. We do have some stars, Cole, Robshaw, Wood, B. Youngs & Farrell can all be top performers...on their day. They all have on and off days, just like everyone in every walk of life, but they can all perform to a very very high level. Add to it the "units" we are starting to put together. Individually, our midfield isn't that much to write home about....but together, Barritt and Tuilagi form a decent pairing, who compliment each other. Throw in Twelvetrees and you have another 2 options, to tailor for the opponents put in front of you. This is something we, and all other teams, would love to have in every position....options to give you the very best chance of winning a game.

Would I like to win a game with free flowing beautiful rugby? Of course I would. Would I want to see my team play like that and lose when a more strategic, clinical game would have taken the points....no. For me a win for my team is preferable to a loss due to beautiful rugby. Sometimes it works, others it doesn't. We have to remember, we are not NZ, Oz or SA, they can play that style of rugby and win more often than not, they have the skill to do so, here in England, were not quite at that level....yet. Maybe one day we will be, I can only hope.

I am looking forward to the future of this side under the current coaching regime, and after hearing what they had to say at the evening I attended Saturday night, I believe they can have some success. Be it 6 nations, grand slams or world cups, I can see this England set up winning silverware. It won't be easy, but for the first time in ten years, things genuinely feel positive. Even the defeats against SA and Aus, we put in performances that maybe should have got better results, but due to mistakes & ill judgement, we let opportunities slip and like every good team does, both SA & Aus punished us. If we want to become a great side, we need to be the ones punishing other teams, like we eventually did v Ireland, by outscoring them, even while down to 14 men.