Australia vs England - 3 Tests - June 2016

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  1. TheOvalBall

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    ****ing daft, none stop AP games until the end of May. Need to have a summer off
     
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    Got my tickets for Melbourne, can't wait to see test Rugby again
     
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    With England doing well, and with an Aussie at the helm, this is shaping up to be a fascinating test series!
    Can't wait!
     
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    Agreed, it is daft, especially after a season which included RWC and 6 nations. NH players are just going to be burnt out next season. And with Lions next summer, it's only going to get worse.

    The only thing I would say is at least the first test is two weeks after the AP final and not like when England went to NZ two years ago and the idiots organised the 1st test 1 week after the final. Not much, but at least England should in theory be able to pick from a full squad of players, rather than the debacle 2 years ago.

    Actually looking forward to the 3 tests - 8.30am will be NZ v Wales, then followed at 11am by England v Australia. 3 Saturdays in a row from 11 June. Sorted for my fix of International rugby in June.
     
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    We're still not at the level that I'd be confident taking on Aus away though.

    Interesting to see how our vastly improved breakdown work (partly down to George Smith ... another interesting angle on the series!) copes with Pooper.
     
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    Would like to see the following England team start the first test, injury permitting:

    1. Marler
    2. Hartley
    3. Cole
    4. Launchbury
    5 Kruis
    6. Itoje
    7. Clifford
    8. Vunipola
    9. Youngs
    10. Ford
    11. Nowell
    12. Tuilagi
    13. Joesph
    14. Watson
    15. Brown
    16. George
    17. Vunipola
    18. Brooke
    19. Lawes
    20. Haskell
    21. Care
    22. Farrell
    23. Daley

    Would like to see Slade at some point at 12, but not sure how fit he will be after his injury lay off.
     
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    I'm confident we can take on the Aussies . They smashed us at the World Cup but that's as bad as I've seen us for a decade . We crumbled under pressure . If this 6N is anything to go by we have stopped the rot as far as that's concerned . I'd like to see Brookes start and Kvesic come in for Haskell . Still lots to work on though and don't forget we have to beat Wales again in May !
     
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    Any news on whether, Kepu, Giteau, AAC, Genia, Mitchell are likely to play in the June tests?
     
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    whilst won't happen would like to see players like
    Marler
    Cole
    Lawes
    Robshaw
    Vunipola (Def won't happen)
    Youngs
    Farrell
    Brown

    Rested considering they have been training non stop roughly for well over a year.

    Bring in
    Waller
    Thomas
    Slater/Barrow/Kitchener
    Underhill
    Hughes
    Robson
    Hill
    Lewington/Roko

    Won't happen though and TBH not upset it won't happen, Most will get a shot with Saxons regardless (under Callard dear god)

    Aus team will be interesting.
     
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    A pretty good team .............. Long term Itoje has to move to 6 and we need to find a proper flyer to play 7............... In the short term, I wonder if Farrell's kicking makes him a better option at 10 ..................... I too want to see what a fully fit Slade can do, although I'm not sure how he best fits in to the line up, perhaps at 12 with Tuilagi going to 13 ?
     
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    I really want to see a farrell-slade tuilagi midfield.

    Perhaps ford for farrell if he can recover from Hodgsonitis.
     
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    This is just bloody madness.

    Agree with Tigs Man. The squad left for Colorado on 14th July last year and the last test of this series is on 25th June. Has nobody noticed that rugby's quite physical these days and that these players might just, possibly, need a rest? Not to mention the mental impact of the RWC disaster. If people have been moaning about the 6N suffering a RWC hangover, what state do they think Eng will be in in 3 months time??

    If Jones has any sense, he should treat this as more of a development tour and send some of the star names to the beach with a few beers. Use players who have missed chunks of the season through injury or have sat on the bench through the 6N. The likes of Brookes, Slade and Manu will have miles in their legs and be up for the fight. Billy, Fazlet and Brown won't.
     
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    Agreed but the Aussies will scream at another under strength English squad coming down under! No reason not to do it though......!!
     
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    Not being inflammatory. Just interested

    Mark itoje has just played what 3 games in England's second row. The scrum has been solid enough, the lineout has been impressive both in attack and defence. Itoje in my view has been awesome in all three games. He's certainly not been bullied in his role. He's hit rucks, turned over ball all the while our other 6s Haskell and Robshaw have effectively gone about their business.

    Why must he be a 6? What wisdom makes it so? If it's to make way for another contender, who and why. Thus far Maro looks more rounded and technically gifted than Lawes and Lauchbury is not back to his pre-injury self.
     
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    Same question I keep asking! Why must he be a 6? Some others -

    Does he not have a say on where he sees himself playing long term?

    Who decided he was a second row?
     
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    England should just do what the Stormers did with the Brumbies and pin them in their own half and work off of mistakes and the odd turn over ball. Folau can't play a territorial kicking game as good as he is elsewhere and if you don't have the ball Pocock can't steal it. Like the Stormers vs the Brumbies England should be able to put in a dominant set piece display vs Aussie as well.
     
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    You're right ....... He doesn't HAVE TO BE moved to 6 ............. I just believe that looking at Itoje's style of play, his build, the number of quality English Locks, the lack of decent English Flankers etc etc, it would benefit England to move him to 6
     
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    There's plenty of good flankers in England even if they are unproven . Although I don't disagree with you about Itoje's quality but keeping a freak like Dave Ewers out of the team by moving Itoje to the flank so we can put Lawes on the bench makes me want to cry ......
     
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    Jones made a point in an interview yesterday about having three players for each position vying for places.

    Here's my list:

    Loosehead Prop
    Joe Marler
    Mako Vunipola
    Matt Mullan / Nick Auterac

    Hooker
    Dylan Hartley
    Jamie George
    Luke Cowan-Dickie

    Tighthead Prop
    Dan Cole
    Kieron Brookes
    Paul Hill / Henry Thomas

    Lock
    Maro Itoje
    Joe Launchbury
    Dave Attwood / Ed Slater

    Lock
    George Kruis
    Courtney Lawes
    Graham Kitchener / Geoff Parling

    Blindside Flanker
    Chris Robshaw
    Dave Ewers
    Jamie Gibson

    Openside Flanker
    James Haskell
    Jack Clifford
    Matt Kvesic / Luke Wallace

    Number 8
    Billy Vunipola
    Ben Morgan
    Josh Beaumont

    Scrum half
    Ben Youngs
    Danny Care
    Dan Robson

    Flyhalf
    George Ford
    Owen Farrell
    Danny Cipriani / Freddie Burns

    Left Wing
    Jack Nowell
    Jonny May
    Alex Lewington

    Inside Centre
    Henry Slade
    Manu Tuilagi
    Sam Hill

    Outside Centre
    Jonathan Joseph
    Elliot Daly
    Henry Trinder

    Right Wing
    Antony Watson
    Marlon Yarde
    Semesa Rokoduguni / Christian Wade

    Full Back
    Mike Brown
    Alex Goode
    Ben Foden / Chris Pennell
     
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