[RWC2023] England vs Samoa (07/10/2023)

[Geordie]

Defended them all day and they come out ans produce this....flippin typical...

 

[die_mole]

It was the law for a while
We then saw plenty of people taking pot shot drop-kick co versions to deny the red/TMO time, spit was removed.

was it? I remember people saying it and teams taking those quick drop goals as long as I can remember. I looked at the TMO guidelines and there was nothing about when you can't call it back. I know that as early as 2018 (last time I watched Super Rugby) they would call back tries after the conversion. Maybe it depends on the comp?

 

[TRF_Olyy]

Marchant screaming for the ball, Manu trying to tell our 10s to kick to him so we can score a 100m try
We don't

Cowards

 

[dirty harry]

Another awful decision, Itoje laying on the breakdown playing that ball.

England can consider themselves very lucky the ref is dragging them to half time

 

[Which Tyler]

I wanted the try to stand but it was clearly a knock-on, even if Itoje generated a lot of the force it still came off the Samoan players hand last

Hatred of any/everything English is blinding a lot of people

As far as I'm aware, it doesn't need to hit his hand last
If it hits his hand and goes forward, then the only way to not be a knock on is if he recovers the ball before it touches anything else.

 

[TRF_Olyy]

was it? I remember people saying it and teams taking those quick drop goals as long as I can remember. I looked at the TMO guidelines and there was nothing about when you can't call it back. I know that as early as 2018 (last time I watched Super Rugby) they would call back tries after the conversion. Maybe it depends on the comp?

It got brought in last year:

TMO protocol updated by World Rugby -

World Rugby have updated the TMO protocol for 2022, formalising live calls and clarifying which areas of the game can reviewed by the TMO.

rugbyreferee.net

 

[dirty harry]

I wanted the try to stand but it was clearly a knock-on, even if Itoje generated a lot of the force it still came off the Samoan players hand last

Hatred of any/everything English is blinding a lot of people

This would be funny if a clear English fanbase werent calling the decision awful.

And I commend those fans being honest enough

 

[Jimbo]

Currys eye didn't look great in that last shot

 

[AlRums]

You just feel Samoa need another one before half time if they are going to win this

Samoa seem much more likely than England

 

[TommiG88]

Don't know how that Samoan got to George on the maul

 

[TRF_Olyy]

As far as I'm aware, it doesn't need to hit his hand last
If it hits his hand and goes forward, then the only way to not be a knock on is if he recovers the ball before it touches anything else.

Yeah, all true - my point was more that it was just really obvious on the replays because he's the last person who makes contact and it goes towards England's tryline so it's a clear knock-on

 

[Booboobang]

England very lucky to be in this. Officials giving everything their way. We got very lucky with the draw this world cup.

 

[Booboobang]

Yeah, all true - my point was more that it was just really obvious on the replays because he's the last person who makes contact and it goes towards England's tryline so it's a clear knock-on

Dont think it was that obvious, ball was in contact with both english and samoan player before coming out.

 

[dirty harry]

Don't know how that Samoan got to George on the maul

Ref said he didnt change his bind...

But he must have because he wasnt bound on the ball carrier originally lol

 

[Jer1cho]

England have been so bad wow.

 

[Jimbo]

This would be funny if a clear English fanbase werent calling the decision awful.

And I commend those fans being honest enough

It was probably the correct decisions in the end but many more obvious ones have not been looked at in detail, those inconsistencies are what's irritating.

 

[die_mole]

It got brought in last year:

TMO protocol updated by World Rugby -

World Rugby have updated the TMO protocol for 2022, formalising live calls and clarifying which areas of the game can reviewed by the TMO.

rugbyreferee.net

interesting. So going off that link the 2018 TMO protocol introduced the conversion time limit that didn't exist before and then they removed it.

 

[BPM]

It's like being back in the summer … dreadful.

Samoa look like a different team, but perhaps England are making them look good by being so awful.

 

[AngloScotsHybrid]

I think Samoa deserve credit for how well they played in that half.

 

[McTallshort]

I blame that early try. The sheer shock of someone crossing that tryline was obviouly so great its disruputed the wholeEngland team

That's funny because it's true